View Poll Results: Do you Agree????
I Agree
210
55.70%
I Don't Agree
167
44.30%
Voters: 377. You may not vote on this poll
WarrTalon............
Originally Posted by BADEVO
LMAO, this is too funny a thread. So many people are ripping this kid, but the numbers say more people agree with him then not.
Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Well, he exaggerated on many points then was flat out wrong in relation to my packages being pushed for Buschur, who he thought was NOT a vendor here. Remove the false exaggeration and the false package accusations, and he wouldn't be ripped as much. Likewise, the numbers may be different.
Wasnt sayin he was right or wrong just stating the numbers dont lie. He has NO way of manipulating the poll.
Yes, he does...by spewing falsehoods that get people riled up. How could people so readily agree with things that aren't true? How does that make sense. Basically, everyone who "agreed" is saying that Buschur is not a vendor, because that's what Evo Kid said in his original post. He said that other vendors should be mad that Buschur is selling a kit on here without paying, yet Buschur is one of the highest-paying vendors. He sponsors 2 of the most high-traffic forums on the site. It makes no sense to just "agree" when the guy spouted false information and wasn't forced to change it or pay any reparations.
Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Yes, he does...by spewing falsehoods that get people riled up. How could people so readily agree with things that aren't true? How does that make sense. Basically, everyone who "agreed" is saying that Buschur is not a vendor, because that's what Evo Kid said in his original post. He said that other vendors should be mad that Buschur is selling a kit on here without paying, yet Buschur is one of the highest-paying vendors. He sponsors 2 of the most high-traffic forums on the site. It makes no sense to just "agree" when the guy spouted false information and wasn't forced to change it or pay any reparations.
Clay, take a deep breath bro. Its not that serious. His main point ( which any rational person can see ) is that your very harsh at times to people. Thats what I got out of it and so did many others....Is he way off in saying that...to your own addmision NO he isnt. But hey it is what it is.... I wouldnt lose sleep over it.
I think that the poll originally was for yes i think you are a cod or no i dont think you are a cod.....i voted no, shouldnt have even voted at all really....what does my personal opinion of another member on this forum have to do with the relevance of his posts. NOTHING if i think his advice is good i will heed it and if not ill ignore it and move on. this thread is rediculous and there should be another poll for it
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I would like to thank everyone for NOT POSTING COMMENTS...only voting. :-)
I for one find Warrtalon a little abrasive at times, but also knowledgable and helpful if you have an intelligent question or really want his opinion. He's just fine in my book.
I for one find Warrtalon a little abrasive at times, but also knowledgable and helpful if you have an intelligent question or really want his opinion. He's just fine in my book.
Originally Posted by dridge11
I would like to thank everyone for NOT POSTING COMMENTS...only voting. :-)
this has to be some kind of record, 20 pages in a 24 hour period. wow!!!
you would think there would be some naked chicks on here or something
Originally Posted by ez76
I have to believe that the people who think Warrtalon is helpful are mostly newbies. I don't mean that derogatorily - I think you must be relatively new to Evo tuning or drag racing, otherwise I don't see how you could consider his regurgitated, basic advice so useful.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think he misleads or that his information is incorrect, and he is available and willing to help in an "I like to hear my own voice so I'll share this basic knowledge with you" sort of way. But really, at the end of the day, he contributes absolutely nothing new information-wise, and is rude to boot, which in my opinion makes his contribution a net loss for the community.
To newbies, he's kind of like a search button that gives you matching threads and the feeling that you're an idiot. It is cute that EvoM has its own Morton Downey, Jr. But he is basically as much of a "resource" here as, I don't know, a 6th grade hall monitor. If he were gone, searching and other people would take his place, and the community would be better off.
Regarding the pushing goods when he's not a paying vendor - hmm ... it's a fine line - not. He advertises his sponsors' products (does work for them) and in return gets free parts (is paid by them). Semantics aside, how is that different from being the employee/agent of (and representing) a vendor? Really I don't care except in as much as he should be held to the same behavior standards as the vendors he represents. His **** wouldn't fly if he were Warrtalon@Buschur.
For his loyal fans, let's talk about the rudeness. Ah yes, the rudeness. The problem with rudeness ... is ultimately not about the being insulted or having our "feewings hurt" or not having thick enough skin. What you people don't realize is that for every person that posts something here on EvoM, there are 100 who don't have the time or inclination to do so, but they are nonetheless reading threads and they do see that Warrtalon makes this a ****tier community to visit and learn from. Why? Because, outside of the military, most people with any self-respect don't appreciate or permit being talked down to. Some people get a kick out of the rudeness because this is th3 int3rw3b. For some of us who have been here longer, we are pretty pissed off that people like Warrtalon are changing the nature of these forums for the worse.
Warrtalon's posts do not promote education, discussion or technical debate, they promote Warrtalon at the expense of new members, precisely the group that needs to be welcomed and helped.
Or do they? Ultimately it is a philosophical question for the staff - EvoM has always felt like an open door community. The Warrtalon cult would have it be more of a clubhouse. Where do you see it going?
Don't get me wrong, I don't think he misleads or that his information is incorrect, and he is available and willing to help in an "I like to hear my own voice so I'll share this basic knowledge with you" sort of way. But really, at the end of the day, he contributes absolutely nothing new information-wise, and is rude to boot, which in my opinion makes his contribution a net loss for the community.
To newbies, he's kind of like a search button that gives you matching threads and the feeling that you're an idiot. It is cute that EvoM has its own Morton Downey, Jr. But he is basically as much of a "resource" here as, I don't know, a 6th grade hall monitor. If he were gone, searching and other people would take his place, and the community would be better off.
Regarding the pushing goods when he's not a paying vendor - hmm ... it's a fine line - not. He advertises his sponsors' products (does work for them) and in return gets free parts (is paid by them). Semantics aside, how is that different from being the employee/agent of (and representing) a vendor? Really I don't care except in as much as he should be held to the same behavior standards as the vendors he represents. His **** wouldn't fly if he were Warrtalon@Buschur.
For his loyal fans, let's talk about the rudeness. Ah yes, the rudeness. The problem with rudeness ... is ultimately not about the being insulted or having our "feewings hurt" or not having thick enough skin. What you people don't realize is that for every person that posts something here on EvoM, there are 100 who don't have the time or inclination to do so, but they are nonetheless reading threads and they do see that Warrtalon makes this a ****tier community to visit and learn from. Why? Because, outside of the military, most people with any self-respect don't appreciate or permit being talked down to. Some people get a kick out of the rudeness because this is th3 int3rw3b. For some of us who have been here longer, we are pretty pissed off that people like Warrtalon are changing the nature of these forums for the worse.
Warrtalon's posts do not promote education, discussion or technical debate, they promote Warrtalon at the expense of new members, precisely the group that needs to be welcomed and helped.
Or do they? Ultimately it is a philosophical question for the staff - EvoM has always felt like an open door community. The Warrtalon cult would have it be more of a clubhouse. Where do you see it going?
