TTP flash Pt2!
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Originally Posted by cfdfireman1
If you were ""playing around with my launch control,"" you had a lap top there right? Why didn't you just load up the other map and run back to back with no changes other than rom file?
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
Bruno - I would not be running the car with that much knock counts
It is clearly knocking significantly by that log and it is not in the 120 mph range if that is in 4th gear
I would suggest you use the pump gas tune - have you tried that with your 100 octane fuel and looked at the knock counts there?
Bruno where do you source the 100 octane fuel you are using ?
Al
It is clearly knocking significantly by that log and it is not in the 120 mph range if that is in 4th gear
I would suggest you use the pump gas tune - have you tried that with your 100 octane fuel and looked at the knock counts there?
Bruno where do you source the 100 octane fuel you are using ?
Al
I'm going to be using TTPs race map tomorrow. I source my race gas from speedway.
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
particularly where I was never even given a chance to try and remedy the issue first hand.
Thank you for your perspective
Thank you for your perspective
Originally Posted by BBYBruno
Al that is your map, i'm sorry. That was 4th gear 2500-7000.
I'm going to be using TTPs race map tomorrow. I source my race gas from speedway.
I'm going to be using TTPs race map tomorrow. I source my race gas from speedway.
Speedway is pumping your 100 octane out of the ground in a pump ?
Al
Originally Posted by BBYBruno
For the 10th time now, you know why I did not come to you to remedy the problem.
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
Does your car also knock on the pump gas made I made or just on the race gas map ?
Speedway is pumping your 100 octane out of the ground in a pump ?
Al
Speedway is pumping your 100 octane out of the ground in a pump ?
Al
Yes it comes from the ground. They have cam2 racing fuel.
This whole thread shouldnt not have even been started. Ok so your car has some knock in it I know that sucks and I know how you feel about getting what you paid for and running the best and safest way possible but what you gotta understand about tuning a car is that nothing is NEVER the same. Altitude, humidity, fuel , Temp and dyno all effect tuning and all can change in a split second. I got the chance to sit in the pit of a NHRA drag car at a local event the car was tuned after every run and every time they brought up the map it had changed since the last tune only minutes ago. Some with knock some with out knock. Ive seen knock counts that resemble an earth quake in or cars but the crew didnt didnt point fingers at one another because they all knew how fat conditions change. Bruno you need to understand that. Im willing to bet that your TTP flash is gonna knock sooner or later and im sure those guys are good tuners just as Al is. Bottom line is is you want to keep a no knock car stop wasting time on the forums and learn how to tune your own car and keep a current tune on it ever few days if not more to keep your knock count down.
Well the if im not mistaken the pump gas map has been altered by another tuner as stated in the very first post of this thread and yet it still has knock or am I wrong
Originally Posted by BBYBruno
It knocks in 4 th on your pump gas map also.
Yes it comes from the ground. They have cam2 racing fuel.
Yes it comes from the ground. They have cam2 racing fuel.
He determined on the pumpgas map the timing was WAY to aggressive. So I did some Evoscan logs sent it to Scott and he said there was definately knock present in 4th gear. So Scott optimized my map and sent it back within 24hrs
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Bruno,
1. The chart that you posted is not that good. There is no rpm axis. Either post the log or send it to someone who will post it for you.
2. Your doing your testing ALL WRONG. Why did you not load TTP's flash and do a couple of runs after you made runs with Dynoflashon the SAME DAY? Why do you have to go home and come to the track the next day with the TTP flash? This is a very poor methodology of testing. A LOT can change in day.
1. The chart that you posted is not that good. There is no rpm axis. Either post the log or send it to someone who will post it for you.
2. Your doing your testing ALL WRONG. Why did you not load TTP's flash and do a couple of runs after you made runs with Dynoflashon the SAME DAY? Why do you have to go home and come to the track the next day with the TTP flash? This is a very poor methodology of testing. A LOT can change in day.
I will just add a few cents here which have nothing to do with Bruno - but are more generalized
Technogical advancements and improvement are part and parcel of the human expereince
In the 3 1/2 years I have ben flash tuning evos I have gone from a DOS base raw hex editor with very primative data loggging which was a bear to use and which cost $6,000 to buy to the new FREE tuning tools which are vastly superior
Its amazing to me how far the techology has come in such a short period of time
The new ecu flash and evo scan combination gives the end user great power to obvserve how his car is running and make adjustments
This is part of the natural advancement of technology
As a business, it is my responsibility to embrace technology and incorporate it into my products to enhance the service that I provide
It is a fact that fuel quality and climatic conditions vary tuning and can effect knock. Also, as mentioned very often boost leaks or other mechanical conditions can and will arise.
My customers who have a knock count concern are encouraged to contact me to have me review your logs and assist you to get to the bottom of the problem. For customers I provide this service FREE OF CHARGE.
At any time - any customer can send me a log of thier tune and I WILL LOOK IT OVER AND MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS NEEDED - FREE OF CHARGE
I think that by sending me your data logs and allowing me an opprtunity to diagnose and repair your problem WE are working with technology to enhance the customer's experience and make my product a better one.
I feel that by sending my rom files which I have invested years of work into to a 3rd party tuner technology is being used for a malicious purpose.
I find it very disturbing to see a fellow vendor bashing my work under these conditions.
If thiks partciular customer just does not want to deal with me for what ever reason - that is his perogative. However, I feel dignity and respect would warrant that 3rd party tuners would not use such a situation to slanderize and attack my reputation.
As I have said before, I remove tuning maps every day from other tuners - I have Works, Vishnu, AMS, TT, Ivey Tune and more. You have never seen me posting about it or commenting on a fellow tuner's maps - frankly its benheath me as a human being and its just nasty and cheap. I prefer to just take out the old map and install one of my own and get to work tuning.
As I said above technology has its good points and bad points.
Technogical advancements and improvement are part and parcel of the human expereince
In the 3 1/2 years I have ben flash tuning evos I have gone from a DOS base raw hex editor with very primative data loggging which was a bear to use and which cost $6,000 to buy to the new FREE tuning tools which are vastly superior
Its amazing to me how far the techology has come in such a short period of time
The new ecu flash and evo scan combination gives the end user great power to obvserve how his car is running and make adjustments
This is part of the natural advancement of technology
As a business, it is my responsibility to embrace technology and incorporate it into my products to enhance the service that I provide
It is a fact that fuel quality and climatic conditions vary tuning and can effect knock. Also, as mentioned very often boost leaks or other mechanical conditions can and will arise.
My customers who have a knock count concern are encouraged to contact me to have me review your logs and assist you to get to the bottom of the problem. For customers I provide this service FREE OF CHARGE.
At any time - any customer can send me a log of thier tune and I WILL LOOK IT OVER AND MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS NEEDED - FREE OF CHARGE
I think that by sending me your data logs and allowing me an opprtunity to diagnose and repair your problem WE are working with technology to enhance the customer's experience and make my product a better one.
I feel that by sending my rom files which I have invested years of work into to a 3rd party tuner technology is being used for a malicious purpose.
I find it very disturbing to see a fellow vendor bashing my work under these conditions.
If thiks partciular customer just does not want to deal with me for what ever reason - that is his perogative. However, I feel dignity and respect would warrant that 3rd party tuners would not use such a situation to slanderize and attack my reputation.
As I have said before, I remove tuning maps every day from other tuners - I have Works, Vishnu, AMS, TT, Ivey Tune and more. You have never seen me posting about it or commenting on a fellow tuner's maps - frankly its benheath me as a human being and its just nasty and cheap. I prefer to just take out the old map and install one of my own and get to work tuning.
As I said above technology has its good points and bad points.
Launch control
Originally Posted by BBYBruno
You said
""The first two 60fts were bad because I was playing around with my launch control, trying to adjust it so my clutch doesn't slip that bad. The 1.7 60th wasn't bad, come on.""
I assumed you were doing this with software am I wrong? Why didn't you load you super TTP tune while at the track yesterday?
Logs
Originally Posted by DynoFlash
I will just add a few cents here which have nothing to do with Bruno - but are more generalized
Technogical advancements and improvement are part and parcel of the human expereince
In the 3 1/2 years I have ben flash tuning evos I have gone from a DOS base raw hex editor with very primative data loggging which was a bear to use and which cost $6,000 to buy to the new FREE tuning tools which are vastly superior
Its amazing to me how far the techology has come in such a short period of time
The new ecu flash and evo scan combination gives the end user great power to obvserve how his car is running and make adjustments
This is part of the natural advancement of technology
As a business, it is my responsibility to embrace technology and incorporate it into my products to enhance the service that I provide
It is a fact that fuel quality and climatic conditions vary tuning and can effect knock. Also, as mentioned very often boost leaks or other mechanical conditions can and will arise.
My customers who have a knock count concern are encouraged to contact me to have me review your logs and assist you to get to the bottom of the problem. For customers I provide this service FREE OF CHARGE.
At any time - any customer can send me a log of thier tune and I WILL LOOK IT OVER AND MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS NEEDED - FREE OF CHARGE
I think that by sending me your data logs and allowing me an opprtunity to diagnose and repair your problem WE are working with technology to enhance the customer's experience and make my product a better one.
I feel that by sending my rom files which I have invested years of work into to a 3rd party tuner technology is being used for a malicious purpose.
I find it very disturbing to see a fellow vendor bashing my work under these conditions.
If thiks partciular customer just does not want to deal with me for what ever reason - that is his perogative. However, I feel dignity and respect would warrant that 3rd party tuners would not use such a situation to slanderize and attack my reputation.
As I have said before, I remove tuning maps every day from other tuners - I have Works, Vishnu, AMS, TT, Ivey Tune and more. You have never seen me posting about it or commenting on a fellow tuner's maps - frankly its benheath me as a human being and its just nasty and cheap. I prefer to just take out the old map and install one of my own and get to work tuning.
As I said above technology has its good points and bad points.
Technogical advancements and improvement are part and parcel of the human expereince
In the 3 1/2 years I have ben flash tuning evos I have gone from a DOS base raw hex editor with very primative data loggging which was a bear to use and which cost $6,000 to buy to the new FREE tuning tools which are vastly superior
Its amazing to me how far the techology has come in such a short period of time
The new ecu flash and evo scan combination gives the end user great power to obvserve how his car is running and make adjustments
This is part of the natural advancement of technology
As a business, it is my responsibility to embrace technology and incorporate it into my products to enhance the service that I provide
It is a fact that fuel quality and climatic conditions vary tuning and can effect knock. Also, as mentioned very often boost leaks or other mechanical conditions can and will arise.
My customers who have a knock count concern are encouraged to contact me to have me review your logs and assist you to get to the bottom of the problem. For customers I provide this service FREE OF CHARGE.
At any time - any customer can send me a log of thier tune and I WILL LOOK IT OVER AND MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS NEEDED - FREE OF CHARGE
I think that by sending me your data logs and allowing me an opprtunity to diagnose and repair your problem WE are working with technology to enhance the customer's experience and make my product a better one.
I feel that by sending my rom files which I have invested years of work into to a 3rd party tuner technology is being used for a malicious purpose.
I find it very disturbing to see a fellow vendor bashing my work under these conditions.
If thiks partciular customer just does not want to deal with me for what ever reason - that is his perogative. However, I feel dignity and respect would warrant that 3rd party tuners would not use such a situation to slanderize and attack my reputation.
As I have said before, I remove tuning maps every day from other tuners - I have Works, Vishnu, AMS, TT, Ivey Tune and more. You have never seen me posting about it or commenting on a fellow tuner's maps - frankly its benheath me as a human being and its just nasty and cheap. I prefer to just take out the old map and install one of my own and get to work tuning.
As I said above technology has its good points and bad points.
Originally Posted by DynoFlash
I will just add a few cents here which have nothing to do with Bruno - but are more generalized
Technogical advancements and improvement are part and parcel of the human expereince
In the 3 1/2 years I have ben flash tuning evos I have gone from a DOS base raw hex editor with very primative data loggging which was a bear to use and which cost $6,000 to buy to the new FREE tuning tools which are vastly superior
Its amazing to me how far the techology has come in such a short period of time
The new ecu flash and evo scan combination gives the end user great power to obvserve how his car is running and make adjustments
This is part of the natural advancement of technology
As a business, it is my responsibility to embrace technology and incorporate it into my products to enhance the service that I provide
It is a fact that fuel quality and climatic conditions vary tuning and can effect knock. Also, as mentioned very often boost leaks or other mechanical conditions can and will arise.
My customers who have a knock count concern are encouraged to contact me to have me review your logs and assist you to get to the bottom of the problem. For customers I provide this service FREE OF CHARGE.
At any time - any customer can send me a log of thier tune and I WILL LOOK IT OVER AND MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS NEEDED - FREE OF CHARGE
I think that by sending me your data logs and allowing me an opprtunity to diagnose and repair your problem WE are working with technology to enhance the customer's experience and make my product a better one.
I feel that by sending my rom files which I have invested years of work into to a 3rd party tuner technology is being used for a malicious purpose.
I find it very disturbing to see a fellow vendor bashing my work under these conditions.
If thiks partciular customer just does not want to deal with me for what ever reason - that is his perogative. However, I feel dignity and respect would warrant that 3rd party tuners would not use such a situation to slanderize and attack my reputation.
As I have said before, I remove tuning maps every day from other tuners - I have Works, Vishnu, AMS, TT, Ivey Tune and more. You have never seen me posting about it or commenting on a fellow tuner's maps - frankly its benheath me as a human being and its just nasty and cheap. I prefer to just take out the old map and install one of my own and get to work tuning.
As I said above technology has its good points and bad points.
Technogical advancements and improvement are part and parcel of the human expereince
In the 3 1/2 years I have ben flash tuning evos I have gone from a DOS base raw hex editor with very primative data loggging which was a bear to use and which cost $6,000 to buy to the new FREE tuning tools which are vastly superior
Its amazing to me how far the techology has come in such a short period of time
The new ecu flash and evo scan combination gives the end user great power to obvserve how his car is running and make adjustments
This is part of the natural advancement of technology
As a business, it is my responsibility to embrace technology and incorporate it into my products to enhance the service that I provide
It is a fact that fuel quality and climatic conditions vary tuning and can effect knock. Also, as mentioned very often boost leaks or other mechanical conditions can and will arise.
My customers who have a knock count concern are encouraged to contact me to have me review your logs and assist you to get to the bottom of the problem. For customers I provide this service FREE OF CHARGE.
At any time - any customer can send me a log of thier tune and I WILL LOOK IT OVER AND MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS NEEDED - FREE OF CHARGE
I think that by sending me your data logs and allowing me an opprtunity to diagnose and repair your problem WE are working with technology to enhance the customer's experience and make my product a better one.
I feel that by sending my rom files which I have invested years of work into to a 3rd party tuner technology is being used for a malicious purpose.
I find it very disturbing to see a fellow vendor bashing my work under these conditions.
If thiks partciular customer just does not want to deal with me for what ever reason - that is his perogative. However, I feel dignity and respect would warrant that 3rd party tuners would not use such a situation to slanderize and attack my reputation.
As I have said before, I remove tuning maps every day from other tuners - I have Works, Vishnu, AMS, TT, Ivey Tune and more. You have never seen me posting about it or commenting on a fellow tuner's maps - frankly its benheath me as a human being and its just nasty and cheap. I prefer to just take out the old map and install one of my own and get to work tuning.
As I said above technology has its good points and bad points.
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Originally Posted by cfdfireman1
You said
""The first two 60fts were bad because I was playing around with my launch control, trying to adjust it so my clutch doesn't slip that bad. The 1.7 60th wasn't bad, come on.""
I assumed you were doing this with software am I wrong? Why didn't you load you super TTP tune while at the track yesterday?
""The first two 60fts were bad because I was playing around with my launch control, trying to adjust it so my clutch doesn't slip that bad. The 1.7 60th wasn't bad, come on.""
I assumed you were doing this with software am I wrong? Why didn't you load you super TTP tune while at the track yesterday?
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Originally Posted by nj1266
Bruno,
1. The chart that you posted is not that good. There is no rpm axis. Either post the log or send it to someone who will post it for you.
2. Your doing your testing ALL WRONG. Why did you not load TTP's flash and do a couple of runs after you made runs with Dynoflashon the SAME DAY? Why do you have to go home and come to the track the next day with the TTP flash? This is a very poor methodology of testing. A LOT can change in day.
1. The chart that you posted is not that good. There is no rpm axis. Either post the log or send it to someone who will post it for you.
2. Your doing your testing ALL WRONG. Why did you not load TTP's flash and do a couple of runs after you made runs with Dynoflashon the SAME DAY? Why do you have to go home and come to the track the next day with the TTP flash? This is a very poor methodology of testing. A LOT can change in day.
Well I went to the track again today and tried out the TTP race gas map. There was hardly any knock (1-2 sums). It was much warmer today and pretty busy at the track. Best run I got was 12.9@109 eww I know, haha. My driving wasn't to good today either.
Also another side note. I spoke with Al last night on the phone and he offered to re-tune my car for free at Buschurs. He wants to figure out why it's not making the power it' supposed to. I didn't expect this from him. Well I guess i'll be heading out to Buschurs this friday to get custom flashed again. I'll keep you guys updated...
Cornfused???
Originally Posted by BBYBruno
Becasue scott didn't finish my tune yet. Like I said that day was to test my dynoflash race map.
""I just installed the upgraded map tonight and took a drive. The car feels a lot smoother through the whole powerband. Once I hit 5k the car pulls harder then before and just keeps going, haha.
I then decided to do a 1/4 run on the freeway, lol i know i know, it was about 2:00am no one was out.""
""Now this is were I was suprised. My best trap at 110mph was at 7100-7200rpm 100ct 25psi.
This is time it was 115-117mph same rpm 94oct 21psi Am I seeing things?! haha.
I will be going to the local track this weekend to validate these results for you guys.""
Now it's not finnished?? Is TTP putting the gear ratios back to stock?