New Xede Power Record Tests Limits of Stock MAF
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Originally Posted by Az3ar
I have no idea if you are referring to STIs or EVOs but not every car is the same.
Have you considered that some people like to stick with the quite stock exhaust for example?
I believe that the less parts you have on your car the more reliable it will be (in most cases). When you add performance parts on your car you should look for the part that adds the most amount of power with great reliability. That could range from a turbo by itself to only an exhaust on some cars.
If you have any questions on how to add performance parts to your car feel free to pm.
No more hijacking
Mhyar
Have you considered that some people like to stick with the quite stock exhaust for example?
I believe that the less parts you have on your car the more reliable it will be (in most cases). When you add performance parts on your car you should look for the part that adds the most amount of power with great reliability. That could range from a turbo by itself to only an exhaust on some cars.
If you have any questions on how to add performance parts to your car feel free to pm.
No more hijacking
Mhyar
Shiv
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Originally Posted by Az3ar
I wouldn’t exactly say that STIs are slow or can be killed easily. My friend did some serious damage to many EVOS this past week.
He is setup is so simple
FP green turbo
Stock exhaust
880 injectors and intake.
Utech
He hit 315 WHP and 330WTRQ on MachV Dyno which is known to read as low as Dynodynamics (Dynojet)
Chris who was tuned by Shiv scored only 300WHP on their dyno he even made ~307 on Dyno4mance dyno so you see where I am coming from.
My friend tune was at 10.5 AFR and no more than 19 PSI (very safe tune)
A built STI with the right parts can easily be very fast car.
As I have said above with some simple parts his STI can make on TT dyno over 350WHP on pump so you can imagine what would happened with built motor.
He is setup is so simple
FP green turbo
Stock exhaust
880 injectors and intake.
Utech
He hit 315 WHP and 330WTRQ on MachV Dyno which is known to read as low as Dynodynamics (Dynojet)
Chris who was tuned by Shiv scored only 300WHP on their dyno he even made ~307 on Dyno4mance dyno so you see where I am coming from.
My friend tune was at 10.5 AFR and no more than 19 PSI (very safe tune)
A built STI with the right parts can easily be very fast car.
As I have said above with some simple parts his STI can make on TT dyno over 350WHP on pump so you can imagine what would happened with built motor.
Sorry to continue the little pissfest but I thought I would share that nobody cares what your friend's STi can do. We all know that stis are fat, slow, understeering pigs
Oh, and any out of the box performance car that has been built with the right parts can easily be a very fast car that's just common sense. Using ATP's dynojet to gauge how much higher a dynojet reads than the dd is stupid and inaccurate because ATP doesn't speak for every g'damned dynojet. If you haven't noticed, it has been said that on AVERAGE dynojets typically read 12-15% higher than the dd. Obviously it depends on how they're calibrated and ATP's is f*cked 3 ways from sunday.
Originally Posted by lambtron
Sorry to continue the little pissfest but I thought I would share that nobody cares what your friend's STi can do. We all know that stis are fat, slow, understeering pigs Oh, and any out of the box performance car that has been built with the right parts can easily be a very fast car that's just common sense. Using ATP's dynojet to gauge how much higher a dynojet reads than the dd is stupid and inaccurate because ATP doesn't speak for every g'damned dynojet. If you haven't noticed, it has been said that on AVERAGE dynojets typically read 12-15% higher than the dd. Obviously it depends on how they're calibrated and ATP's is f*cked 3 ways from sunday.
Oh, and any out of the box performance car that has been built with the right parts can easily be a very fast car that's just common sense. Using ATP's dynojet to gauge how much higher a dynojet reads than the dd is stupid and inaccurate because ATP doesn't speak for every g'damned dynojet. If you haven't noticed, it has been said that on AVERAGE dynojets typically read 12-15% higher than the dd. Obviously it depends on how they're calibrated and ATP's is f*cked 3 ways from sunday.I did not want to post on this thread respecting Tom but I thought this morning why not post? If you have no respect for yourself why should I have respect for you?
Who said anything about handling on this thread you noobie?? The guy is building a drag car not a track car (Can't you see the setup)??
I was mentioning the STI because some of you guys keep saying slow slow slow (ignorant bunch of kids)
If its about handling give me Toms car on one of my nice races on Watkins Glen and I will show you how his 500WHP will be out one by one from the back of the exhaust along with some rods and piston rings. On my 9th lap I will show you real reliability when heat makes every screw in your car drive itself out.
Get a life
LMAO, the tough guy is back again!
9th lap, and heat? Where do you come up with this ****? Everyone(including STi owners) KNOW(read: KNOWS GDit) that the EVO is a far better platform for building a fast, reliable drag car.
Just because we are talking smack to the spam king(read: STi guy) about his broken *** STi doesn't mean we dont know what that car can be capable of. You calling us ignorant kids is a riot. I believe you are the poster child of ignorant....ignorant people around the world search for your posts for inspiration.
Please go away, you have nothing to offer anyone here. Take your friends mid 12 sec STi and go to the truck. STock exhaust, LMAO.
9th lap, and heat? Where do you come up with this ****? Everyone(including STi owners) KNOW(read: KNOWS GDit) that the EVO is a far better platform for building a fast, reliable drag car.
Just because we are talking smack to the spam king(read: STi guy) about his broken *** STi doesn't mean we dont know what that car can be capable of. You calling us ignorant kids is a riot. I believe you are the poster child of ignorant....ignorant people around the world search for your posts for inspiration.
Please go away, you have nothing to offer anyone here. Take your friends mid 12 sec STi and go to the truck. STock exhaust, LMAO.
BTW, would you like me to show you how to drive on the track?
www.seat-time.com
pick a date, i got $500 bucks says you can't best my times.
www.seat-time.com
pick a date, i got $500 bucks says you can't best my times.
Originally Posted by gsujeff55
BTW, would you like me to show you how to drive on the track?
www.seat-time.com
pick a date, i got $500 bucks says you can't best my times.
www.seat-time.com
pick a date, i got $500 bucks says you can't best my times.
WTF. Can we stay on topic.
Originally Posted by TwStDeVo
thank you soo much for doing this. correct me if im wrong, but it seems like the 3037 and 3071 spool almost identical, where the 3037 makes more power in the mid range and holds torque better up top. my question is, if the car with the 3037 changed its turbo to the 3076, would things change?
the 35r and stroker graphs are very nice, especially the way it spools. now here is my question, i live in an area that is 6000ft above sea level, the 35r on stock 2.0 would probably spool 500rpm later than at sea level, would it be worth the effort to do a 2.3 and 35r up here? i would be running 91oct and alky only.
the 35r and stroker graphs are very nice, especially the way it spools. now here is my question, i live in an area that is 6000ft above sea level, the 35r on stock 2.0 would probably spool 500rpm later than at sea level, would it be worth the effort to do a 2.3 and 35r up here? i would be running 91oct and alky only.
The 3071 does spool faster than a 3037 or 3076 ... it is just my particular setup that seems to sacrifice 200 to 300 rpms of spoolup over other Evos with similar setups. Unfortunately I don't have a racegas tune yet, so I don't know how my 3071 will respond to better fuel. One thing to note, however, is that my setup does hold torque better up top than Jay's 3037 - not sure if that is due to slightly better gas or the cams (probably a combination of both). My torque curve also remains flatter than either the 35r stroker or the 3037, again probably a result of how I've built up my engine.
A 3037 is pretty much the same turbo as a 3076 ... depending on which variant of the 3037 you get, it may actually be identical. So changing the turbo from a 3037 to a 3076 should make very little, if any, difference.
If you want the ultimate street setup, then I would say, yes, go for the 2.3L 35r ... but make sure you have your engine built by a good engine builder (someone who has successfully built a 2.3L 4g63). Building and engine is a MAJOR investment so I'd make sure to allow for a lot of downtime to have it done right. IIRC (and Shiv, correct me if I'm wrong), at altitude you can run slightly higher boost, which should work nicely with alky and a 2.3L 35r.
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Last edited by Ludikraut; Oct 6, 2005 at 09:57 AM. Reason: correctiones
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Originally Posted by Az3ar
I did not want to post on this thread respecting Tom but I thought this morning why not post? If you have no respect for yourself why should I have respect for you?
Who said anything about handling on this thread you noobie?? The guy is building a drag car not a track car (Can't you see the setup)??
I was mentioning the STI because some of you guys keep saying slow slow slow (ignorant bunch of kids)
If its about handling give me Toms car on one of my nice races on Watkins Glen and I will show you how his 500WHP will be out one by one from the back of the exhaust along with some rods and piston rings. On my 9th lap I will show you real reliability when heat makes every screw in your car drive itself out.
Get a life
Who said anything about handling on this thread you noobie?? The guy is building a drag car not a track car (Can't you see the setup)??
I was mentioning the STI because some of you guys keep saying slow slow slow (ignorant bunch of kids)
If its about handling give me Toms car on one of my nice races on Watkins Glen and I will show you how his 500WHP will be out one by one from the back of the exhaust along with some rods and piston rings. On my 9th lap I will show you real reliability when heat makes every screw in your car drive itself out.
Get a life
You come up with some interesting situations there guy. 9th lap? You sure its going to be on the 9th lap when you show us "real reliability." I'm going to take this matter to Judge Judy(on the grounds of lying to tron) if it doesn't happen on the 9th lap so I can get my .02 back, jerkface. So you don't want to show Tom any respect; and you're telling me I have no self respect and you called me a noobie?! Good lord, that is so appalling, I'm so angry, grrr. Listen fella, I made no personal attacks on you except for maybe refer to your friend's sti oh and I called you a jerkface so chill out; quit acting like you're God's gift to this thread and please go clean the sand out of your ****. It would be much appreciated 
Last edited by lambtron; Oct 6, 2005 at 09:01 AM.
Originally Posted by lambtron
You come up with some interesting situations there guy. 9th lap? You sure its going to be on the 9th lap when you show us "real reliability." I'm going to take this matter to Judge Judy(on the grounds of lying to tron) if it doesn't happen on the 9th lap so I can get my .02 back, jerkface. So you don't want to show Tom any respect; and you're telling me I have no self respect and you called me a noobie?! Good lord, that is so appalling, I'm so angry, grrr. Listen fella, I made no personal attacks on you except for maybe refer to your friend's sti oh and I called you a jerkface so chill out; quit acting like you're God's gift to this thread and please go clean the sand out of your ****. It would be much appreciated Yes the 9th lap kid..
About the guy with the $500 I will take you any time even with my BMW. Only 165 rear BHP and bring your EVO
How about VIR this upcoming week? When you say something be a man to stand behind it kid.
Mhyar
Umm, i am standing behind it. I posed a challenge to you, and apparently you are declining.
Did you click the link? Any car you wanna bring down...i have one for it!
and what is 'rear BHP'?? LOL
Did you click the link? Any car you wanna bring down...i have one for it!
and what is 'rear BHP'?? LOL
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Originally Posted by gsujeff55
Just because we are talking smack to the spam king(read: STi guy) about his broken *** STi doesn't mean we dont know what that car can be capable of.
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My car ain't broke *** no more.
Like many I await some track #'s from Toms car.
Last edited by MBGSTI; Oct 6, 2005 at 10:24 AM.
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Originally Posted by lambtron
Sorry to continue the little pissfest but I thought I would share that nobody cares what your friend's STi can do. We all know that stis are fat, slow, understeering pigs Oh, and any out of the box performance car that has been built with the right parts can easily be a very fast car that's just common sense. Using ATP's dynojet to gauge how much higher a dynojet reads than the dd is stupid and inaccurate because ATP doesn't speak for every g'damned dynojet. If you haven't noticed, it has been said that on AVERAGE dynojets typically read 12-15% higher than the dd. Obviously it depends on how they're calibrated and ATP's is f*cked 3 ways from sunday.
Oh, and any out of the box performance car that has been built with the right parts can easily be a very fast car that's just common sense. Using ATP's dynojet to gauge how much higher a dynojet reads than the dd is stupid and inaccurate because ATP doesn't speak for every g'damned dynojet. If you haven't noticed, it has been said that on AVERAGE dynojets typically read 12-15% higher than the dd. Obviously it depends on how they're calibrated and ATP's is f*cked 3 ways from sunday.