also shiv...when they are referring to previous "logs" I think they are referring to your previous maps posted on the website. Fueling up top is dramatically different as far as fuel being pulled. Although I tested it and seems to work quite well....hope i'm not messing up my engine...although everything indicated that its working quite safely

 

Everything is safe, don't worry. FWIW, race gas maps typically yank out 20 points (or more) of fuel to achieve AFRs of 12-12.5:1 in addition to running 3-5 degrees more timing in the timing table. And as much boost as the stock turbo can reasonably support. The baseline maps we have provided are neither ultra aggressive or unsafe. They just aren't castrated or dumbed down.

Shiv

 

Then you have a very very conservative race gas map.

shiv

 

Okay thank you for double checking that stuff for us.

It appears many of us are gonna run better times next year. The added timing and leaner race gas mixture alone should be good for a substancial gains over those conservative V2 maps.

I have to admit I'm still nervous about running such an aggressive map but I added in two more points of fuel just to be on the safe side.

ONE MORE QUESTION......

If we are not using SMART, can we just purge the smart maps (instead of zero'ing them) from the files thus having less maps to load during startup?

 

I agree.

Ok.

You can but you have have to make some changes in the map parameters so that the logic flows around the SMART table, not through them. If you REALLY want to do this, I can explain how. But only if we kill this thread because the title is really starting to pizz ME off.

shiv

 

Well we can kill this thread as soon as ALL the 05 maps are loaded up. There are a few people still looking for sub-zero and zero maps.

 

Shiv,

I used the email function off of this website and I tried to send you a pm (but it said your box is full). I have also created a thread asking for the map I want. I talked to Calvin at your shop and he said you would have to email the map to me since it isn't on the website. Have you actually made '05 93 octane subzero maps or do you have to wait until a customer with a stock 05 Evo on 93 octane gets a custom tune to get the data you need? If I just need to wait and be patient, thats cool. I have seen on other threads that you guys are really busy right now. Could you give an ETA on when you might have the rest of the 05 93 octane maps?

Please let me know,
Adam

 

Hi Adam,
We've only tuned a couple of completely stock 05s. And they were a while ago. For now, it would be perfectly safe to run the 0+map for the time being.

shiv

 

Shiv,

Thanks for the response! I assume you mean the 91 octane 0+?

Adam

 

i put together a stage 0+ map with smart and launch control enabled if anyone is interested.....i used shivs new 0+ map that he posted on vishnu's website and just put it in a smart template. Works awesome!

 

I would assume so......but its not all that critical..... Looking at the difference between the 91 oct stage 1 and the 93 octane stage 1 .....there's really not much of a change. I would still like to see more WB logs from the new maps. I dont like to run 12:1 afr on pumpgas.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/at...chmentid=79054

 

Just a final post in this thread ......here is a thead you ALL should read.

This is why I am very nervous about advice like......use the stage 1 map on a stage zero car or use the stage zero plus map on a subzero car:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=172116

Looking at the posted wideband readings really makes me nervous about running those maps on pump gas. They look like great race gas maps though!

 

Bad tunes destroy engines....the AEM is a whole different animal though....not really fair to compare the two. I'm confident that Shiv knows what he's doing....he wouldn't post something online that would put his career and business at risk for a couple extra HP. Like I said earlier.....I'm running the stage 0+ maps with Smart activated....the SMART system indicates that it is hardly having to make any adjustments. We are still running the stock ECU so there are still safe guards in place from my understanding. I'm still running the stock fuel pump and I'm not leaning out too much. I think things are going to be just fine.

 

I have yet to see a motor fail by using any of our maps. And I have yet to see any of our baseline maps result in dangerously lean AFRs. So I don't know what more I can do for you. If you don't want to run a map that you feel, for some reason, is to aggressive, don't. I can't, and I don't want to, force you to do anything.

 

i used a stage 1 map when i only had a turbo back and xede, so whats that a 0+? the car ran fine, i took it to the track etc. now with my 1+ im still using a base map and again have beaten on it at the track, there's really nothing to worry about.