Shiv u never tuned my car it was turbotrix racing in NJ...but thanxs for the help. My name is Gary S. My mods are as follows HKS catback with RMR cat delete pipe Hallmans MBC HKS 264 cams Wallbro 255 fule pump Greddy bov k+n intake and dyno tune

 

ez76 why would you post this. I am in Law Enforcement and I am sure I also could dig up dirt on just about anyone. I just dont see any reason this was posted in the Great Dyno Day forum we had going before all the Al bashing. Shiv lets please get back on topic on how great the turn out was this past weekend.

 

oh sorry... your post sounded like I tuned it.

You might want to talk to Mark at Turbotrix and tell them your situation. They are really helpful and should be able to take care of you. Although it may require another 4 hour drive

Shiv

 

<- Stands up and claps

 

Shiv belive me mark is the nicest guy!!..the best service the only thing is when I called him and told him today he said that mph sounds right...i dont know man...with my mods any evo should be able to do 110mph...I had a basic works rally mail in flash a p1 wich does not even touch the boost level and I was able to hit 105Mph in the 1/4 mile. This is my second evo and I have all these mods and I am only able to match what I did with my other evo witch was practically stock

 

I've been watching with entertainment and disgust at the "Al Phenomenon" for a few years now. I first read his posts on iclub-naisoc in the Suby world. Now I've watched and read this site since last year. I do have to give Kudos to his Guerilla Marketing on the internet. He comes up strong, disses all comers and is VERY active on the forums to keep his presence known to propagate the FUD. Then, once the cover is blown he disappears for a while and comes back again - like a bad cold. He has Superior drive, but his marketing tactics are fundamentally flawed along with his "technical skills". I fortunately have great contacts in the tuning world to help me clear through the BS, it's been entertaining and exciting to watch the mud thrown between The Al and The Others. Kudos to Shiv for his expertise and willingness to sling justly deserved mud into the other corner!

Shiv's products and performance compromises match my shopping desires -

 

hey thanks guys... i kinda feel like a stinker for going off like that on both this and the dynoflash forum. I know I should just suck it up with the believe that the truth will prevail in the end. Unfortunately, on the internet, truth rarely prevails. Hopefully, all this muck will stir up enough interest for more people to do their homework instead of falling into marketing hype. This applies to our marketing hype as well

 

Well, I just called Al out in his forum ( in a very nice and PC way ), to see if he too would be up for the main event.

XFlash vs. DynoFlash
XEDE Custom Tune vs. Al Custom Tune

Sunday! Sunday! Someday!

Hell, I'd take off work to go see that.

 

Al will not accept the challenge. "Something" will come up. A bad clutch install, a editor not calling him back, etc...

 

I think this event would be a very nice and useful thing to stage. Just think, an actual A-B comparison on the same car (or couple of cars) with the same dyno in the same day! Now that's a useful and true test. I really believe that Andrew can be a very impartial host and that there are enough ppl with all kinds of different tuners around so that it wont be a venue loaded with supporters or detractors of any one camp. Besides, I firmly believe that once everybody meets in person, a truly gentlemanly nature can pervade these rivalries.

I definitely would be there! I want to see actual results of side by side comparo's. I think that enough ppl would attend a concurrent tuning "fest" by their favorite tuner and get dyno test results in a nice binder afterwards. It would be easy to accomodate everyone since Al would not even use the dyno for tuning! Those roads around Dyno4mance are great for road tuning.... Heck, maybe the EVO and WRX ppl would see a friendly contest ending up with some good results for all.

 

don't hold your breath on this one. this has been talked about many times before and i am teling you that it will not happen. i have talked to Shiv about it before but Al would not go for a tune off.

 

Shiv, Noize and others

It is obvious that Ryan's car is the fastest with 294WHP (race gas) or 110WHP over stock. What type of time and trap speed do you think his car can run in 1/4 after the tune?

In fact he may be fastest in GA on the stock turbo and BOV.

 

Actually if you really want to do a XFlash vs. DynoFlash, you don't really need Shiv or Al there ... all you need is an Evo, a dyno and an independent, impartial 3rd party watching the whole thing (like what they do for Guiness world records).

My advice to Shiv and any other tuner... don't get caught up in the hype. One of the reasons I'm going with Vishnu is because they put their $$$ where their mouth is, and they are consistant. Your feat at the One Lap of America was truly astounding and your continued dynoday efforts are also fantastic. Just keep posting your results ... they speak for themselves. Things like this impress me much more than people that only have dyno numbers to throw out or post a fast 1/4 mile time ... My car needs to last longer than a 1/4 mile and needs to be drivable on asphalt not metal.

It's really great to see the success of the Dyno4mance dyno day, and I really look forward to having my car tuned at the CO dyno days. Now if we could only convince one of the tuners to run an Evo in one of the 24hr races...

 

Snoop, with a hotshoe driver and good launch/ET, I'd say really low 12s and 113-114mph. In cool weather, an 11.90 is possible, IMO

 

Low 12s 12flat-12.4 depending on the driver at 112-114 mph. 11.99 maybe with a perfect run in perfect conditions(weather,track prep,altitude,downwind etc).Possible yes but 12.1 -12.2 should be what a decent driver can pull. I got a 12.4 at 112mph with a 1.9 60ft and slow shifting as my 4th gear synchro was shot. I also am easy on my car off the line as I am scared of breaking the transfer case with the Cusco twin. Smogrunner was doing 12.2-12.3s(stock clutch) all day with the same basic tune from Shiv. Evotomig, has hit 12.3 at 113mph on his 1+ and will probably hit 12.1 next time out with his new clutch that he believes was holding him back. All i have to say is have fun Ryan and try to represent with an 11.99 et at 114mph. That would be cool and it is possible although unprobable as an11 sec pass is tough on the stock turbo. Shiv's tune is for repeatable consistency not just one 1/4 mile wot run and let the car rest like other tuners. I am sure he could tune your car for one run before it heats up too much to get you an 11sec slip but that would not be reliable or practical for an every day driver. I read a post on another thread about a tuner that gives the car 15 min breaks between dyno runs to get optimal power gains.and heating the car up and doing hot laps on the dyno as I have witnessed Shiv do is wrong and that is why the #s of his Dynoflush tunes were so low. Dynoflush Shiv gets these #s after several runs on the dyno and they are consistent within 5-10 hp. He does not do one wot run and shut the car off for 15 minutes and do another run. He is looking for consistent gains that are repeatable not just one peak # that can be repeated every 15 minutes. I will go now and I know he will read this but can't respond on this forum but I already left a similar message on his forum. Sorry for the rant.