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Old Aug 4, 2004 | 03:17 PM
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Yea shiv could retire in another 5 years if he hooked this up... and good point about rouch and ford just have a similar setup with vishnu and Evo that would ROCK!!!!!
Old Aug 4, 2004 | 03:32 PM
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Why would you want that? I dont mean to bash vishnu or anything, but vishnu products are not among the most economic (cheap). Now imgine those products on a factory backed evo. Too expensive!!! I rather get an MR over a vishnu evo. Just my .02 cents
Old Aug 4, 2004 | 03:35 PM
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Just a nice factory no-hassle option. If you want to go ghetto there are plenty of suppliers for low end parts...
Old Aug 4, 2004 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by masterevo
Why would you want that? I dont mean to bash vishnu or anything, but vishnu products are not among the most economic (cheap). Now imgine those products on a factory backed evo. Too expensive!!! I rather get an MR over a vishnu evo. Just my .02 cents
In the UK the get an MR FQ330 Ralliart
Old Aug 4, 2004 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by alleggerita
In the UK the get an MR FQ330 Ralliart
And lots of other cars that we wish we could have over here in the US!

Thanks for the reminder.
Old Aug 4, 2004 | 06:10 PM
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hey, at least we get a more powerful STI
Old Aug 4, 2004 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by alleggerita
In the UK the get an MR FQ330 Ralliart
Ralliart has nothing to do with it FQs. The packages are developed by Owen Engineering and are dealer installed. They are very similar to the Vishnu upgrades.
Old Aug 4, 2004 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by masterevo
Why would you want that? I dont mean to bash vishnu or anything, but vishnu products are not among the most economic (cheap). Now imgine those products on a factory backed evo. Too expensive!!! I rather get an MR over a vishnu evo. Just my .02 cents
A stage 1 vishnu tuned Evo will smoke the hell out of an MR and yes they aren't cheap because they make some of the best products not too many other company's can add close to 100 whp for under 2500 bucks and still keep the car a daily driver with original turbo and drivetrain.
Old Aug 4, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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It would be awesome. Unfortunately, Mitsubishi won't even warranty most of the cars when they are stock. They always try to blame it on user abuse. This would only make it worse.
From what I have seen on this site and in my town of Evo owners I have to agree with you.
Old Aug 4, 2004 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by erikgj
Ralliart has nothing to do with it FQs. The packages are developed by Owen Engineering and are dealer installed. They are very similar to the Vishnu upgrades.
See, this is the way it should be...It would be best if individual dealerships qualified Vishnu products and then purchased them directly from Vishnu and the dealer sells the Vishnu products to the end buyer. Don't get corporate involved AT ALL in the equation at the beginning. Once this happens, the buyer will end up paying about an extra 40%. The reason...Vishnu sells to corporate (markup #1), corporate sells to dealer(markup #2), dealer sells to customer(markup #3). It would be better if Vishnu sells to dealer(markup #1) and dealer sells to customer(markup #2)...one less markup in there that could easily add $1000 dollars depending on the level of mods.

I work EXACTLY in this situation as a designer for another OEM, and the extra step and markup causes the price to quickly climb out of the buyers reach. Of course, all of this is just my opinion
Old Aug 4, 2004 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by erikgj
Ralliart has nothing to do with it FQs. The packages are developed by Owen Engineering and are dealer installed. They are very similar to the Vishnu upgrades.
Interesting. Didn't know about Owen Engineering. Still, they are sold by Ralliart dealers and have the Ralliart logo on the front seats.
Old Aug 4, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyChimpo
See, this is the way it should be...It would be best if individual dealerships qualified Vishnu products and then purchased them directly from Vishnu and the dealer sells the Vishnu products to the end buyer. Don't get corporate involved AT ALL in the equation at the beginning. Once this happens, the buyer will end up paying about an extra 40%. The reason...Vishnu sells to corporate (markup #1), corporate sells to dealer(markup #2), dealer sells to customer(markup #3). It would be better if Vishnu sells to dealer(markup #1) and dealer sells to customer(markup #2)...one less markup in there that could easily add $1000 dollars depending on the level of mods.

I work EXACTLY in this situation as a designer for another OEM, and the extra step and markup causes the price to quickly climb out of the buyers reach. Of course, all of this is just my opinion
However, in this case don't you think it would be fairly easy for corporate mitsu/mmna to deny warranty service on the cars? Just because a dealer approves an aftermarket product doesn't mean Mitsubishi will. Sure the dealer can always say "f*ck it" in that case and do the warranty work anyways. Consequently, Mitsubishi can turn around, give the dealer the corporate finger and not pay them a dime to reimburse them for the work done.
Old Aug 4, 2004 | 08:53 PM
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Acura has Comptech and you can buy a new NSX with there supercharger and be covered 100%. Comptech is huge, has over 20 people working there and builds F1 motors as well. I think to pull something like this off you would have to have a bigger shop with some R&D work.
Old Aug 4, 2004 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by lambtron@vishnu
However, in this case don't you think it would be fairly easy for corporate mitsu/mmna to deny warranty service on the cars? Just because a dealer approves an aftermarket product doesn't mean Mitsubishi will. Sure the dealer can always say "f*ck it" in that case and do the warranty work anyways but then Mitsubishi can turn around and give the dealer the corporate finger and not pay them a dime to reimburse them for the work done.
It would be most definately easy for corporate mitsu to deny warranty...however, there is only a 3 year/36k warranty on the evo anyways ('03...not sure about others) AND I'm not talking Vishnu stage 2's here...maybe the xflash and catback/turboback in a package(no way am i talking cams and gears), which is basically - if i'm not mistaken - what the FQ's are. In this case, do you feel that the evo would break more? Sure, it definately would be making more power, but not THAT much more power. I doubt that UK is giving warranty (of course I have no idea really) to the purchasers of the FQ, guessing that it's probably the dealers upholding the warranty. I'm only saying that if you found a good dealer such as HB Mitsubishi and sold them a package and they decided to sell the "Vishnu" package on the car while honoring their "own" warranty for a $2500-3000 markup, maybe it would be a step in the right direction. The buyer gets quite a "bit" more power and his/her warranty isn't voided (by the dealer anyways). Then that dealer buys a few more "Vishnu" packages---let's just call it "V-spec" ....then other dealers say "hey, we want some of those packages" and the ball starts rollin'.
Old Aug 4, 2004 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Evo2BU
Acura has Comptech and you can buy a new NSX with there supercharger and be covered 100%. Comptech is huge, has over 20 people working there and builds F1 motors as well. I think to pull something like this off you would have to have a bigger shop with some R&D work.
Ummm, no you can't. I work for Honda (at a corporate level) and we do not sell ANY engine performance upgrades for Honda or Acura...period end of story. So how exactly are you covered 100 percent? Comptech has a small relationship with Honda, but that is basically with showcars and PR (remember the silver CL at SEMA...that thing made gobs of power, trust me )

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