Las Vegas Evo's
Originally Posted by Rowdy
I might not know John as well as you Evo drivers do, but I think he is a great guy and want to see his mechanical failure get fixed. You must be bored with nothing to do on a Saturday night, talking smack about a shop you have never even visited.
You went there to discuss Johns problem with Dennis when?
You need to do more research before even bringing this up again.
It was an unfortunate situation, that several other Evo owners here in Las Vegas are going through at this very moment.
Perhaps when your transfer case goes out, you can find someone else to blame as well. (Not that I would wish that upon anyone, but get real man, you are way out of line).
You went there to discuss Johns problem with Dennis when?
You need to do more research before even bringing this up again.
It was an unfortunate situation, that several other Evo owners here in Las Vegas are going through at this very moment.
Perhaps when your transfer case goes out, you can find someone else to blame as well. (Not that I would wish that upon anyone, but get real man, you are way out of line).
You and me both are home this saturday night so you must be bored also.
Just because other Evos have blown transfer cases does not mean John's assumed the same fate. What are you implying? John blew it up from drag racing and Dennis did nothing wrong?
BS pal. This was discussed many times on these forums and his problem relates to improper fluid. It did not grenade or it would have right at the strip.
Instead of discussing john's problem, maybe LDL should be ordering a new transfer case for him.
Last edited by SinCityEvo; Dec 5, 2004 at 12:14 AM.
Derek, this is not personal and I have nothing against you personally. I have never met you or Dennis. I just want to make that clear.
You may be right. It is almost impossible to prove what happened. Fact is John did many drag passes and it may have lead to its demise and coincidentally it blew after the clutch install.
Many other Evos have blown the TC this way. But a sure fire way to destroy the case is bad fluid. I do not know the facts like you said but I heard Dennis captured and reused the same fluid. I believe it that may be possible also.
So I guess they have to come to some kind of agreement on what to do. It's unfortunate, but John as you say still has faith in Dennis' work.
That's what happens, you race you break stuff.
You may be right. It is almost impossible to prove what happened. Fact is John did many drag passes and it may have lead to its demise and coincidentally it blew after the clutch install.
Many other Evos have blown the TC this way. But a sure fire way to destroy the case is bad fluid. I do not know the facts like you said but I heard Dennis captured and reused the same fluid. I believe it that may be possible also.
So I guess they have to come to some kind of agreement on what to do. It's unfortunate, but John as you say still has faith in Dennis' work.
That's what happens, you race you break stuff.
Last edited by SinCityEvo; Dec 5, 2004 at 12:08 AM.
Originally Posted by SinCityEvo
Derek, this is not personal and I have nothing against you personally. I have never met you or Dennis. I just want to make that clear.
The same fluid that came out of Johns TC went right back in since no other fluids were provided by the customer, (truth from Dennis' mouth).
This is just something that happens to these cars, I mean really - it's not fair to blame whatever shop you deal with when your transfer case bearings go out.
BTW, I'm watching SNL, and can check back during commercials.
Some talentless singer is on SNL right now, so I can post real quick.
I don't care which shop you deal with, you have to just understand it's not right saying so and so destroyed Joe/Frank/Bobs transfer case in his/her Evo.
These clutches and transfer cases are the weak points of Evos, I have been following what kind of results these cars provide (through an experienced engine builder and the aftermarket) because I was really thinking about purchasing one. My father sells Mitsus up in Reno, so I can get a good deal, but I now know what the strengths and weaknesses of these cars are.
Hate to say it, but I have learned a lot just from this website alone about the negative points of these cars.
I don't care which shop you deal with, you have to just understand it's not right saying so and so destroyed Joe/Frank/Bobs transfer case in his/her Evo.
These clutches and transfer cases are the weak points of Evos, I have been following what kind of results these cars provide (through an experienced engine builder and the aftermarket) because I was really thinking about purchasing one. My father sells Mitsus up in Reno, so I can get a good deal, but I now know what the strengths and weaknesses of these cars are.
Hate to say it, but I have learned a lot just from this website alone about the negative points of these cars.
Originally Posted by Rowdy
Some talentless singer is on SNL right now, so I can post real quick.
I don't care which shop you deal with, you have to just understand it's not right saying so and so destroyed Joe/Frank/Bobs transfer case in his/her Evo.
These clutches and transfer cases are the weak points of Evos, I have been following what kind of results these cars provide (through an experienced engine builder and the aftermarket) because I was really thinking about purchasing one. My father sells Mitsus up in Reno, so I can get a good deal, but I now know what the strengths and weaknesses of these cars are.
Hate to say it, but I have learned a lot just from this website alone about the negative points of these cars.
I don't care which shop you deal with, you have to just understand it's not right saying so and so destroyed Joe/Frank/Bobs transfer case in his/her Evo.
These clutches and transfer cases are the weak points of Evos, I have been following what kind of results these cars provide (through an experienced engine builder and the aftermarket) because I was really thinking about purchasing one. My father sells Mitsus up in Reno, so I can get a good deal, but I now know what the strengths and weaknesses of these cars are.
Hate to say it, but I have learned a lot just from this website alone about the negative points of these cars.
I never said LDL destroyed his TC. I implied that *if* the improper fluid was used, it may very well have burned up the bearings after a few hundred miles. This has happened to some owners and ther are quite a bit of posts about it.
Well, I can't say more about this. It's not my place to be butting in on John's problem but I have studied the Evo for almost 2 years and researched problems and i gave my view about it. Let's see what comes about.
No hard feelings Derek.
Last edited by SinCityEvo; Dec 5, 2004 at 12:27 AM.
Originally Posted by SinCityEvo
I agree 100% that the Evo's weakness is the driveline and
I never said LDL destroyed his TC. I implied that *if* the improper fluid was used, it may very well have burned up the bearings after a few hundred miles.
I never said LDL destroyed his TC. I implied that *if* the improper fluid was used, it may very well have burned up the bearings after a few hundred miles.
I see that Sport Compact Car reports that the Evo has done remarkably well in the Ultimate Street Car Shootout, thats good news.
I love these cars, but unfortunately its not all gravy - the DSM's are very similar which is an indicator of what to expect.
I'm trying to get a hold of Road Race Engineering to hook up my CLutch and Flywheel since its their product I'm buying it from.. They have the same clutch on there Project Evo.. called the No name clutch.. http://www.roadraceengineering.com/evo/nonameclutch.htm ... Read up on it.. Pressure plate looks stock but has 3,000 lbs clamp load vs. 2,200 lbs that the stock EVO 8 clutch has.
Last edited by joEvo8; Dec 5, 2004 at 09:25 AM.
Does anyone know the difference between getting what kind of FLywheel? Is it .. "The Lighter the Better!"? Found one with he No Name Clutch from RRE that weighs 10.7lbs and another from Fidanza weighing 9.65lbs... Just wanted to know who will win the battle of the Flywheels? 
I have heard that many people do not like the lighter flywheel and opt to keep the stock one. Fidanza seems to be the big name thrown around here. But the RRE clutch is a good choice and not expensive.
Here is a fun thread for you guys:
http://lvracingscene.com/forums/inde...topic=5051&hl=
http://lvracingscene.com/forums/inde...topic=5051&hl=
Originally Posted by joEvo8
I'm trying to get a hold of Road Race Engineering to hook up my CLutch and Flywheel since its their product I'm buying it from.. They have the same clutch on there Project Evo.. called the No name clutch.. http://www.roadraceengineering.com/evo/nonameclutch.htm ... Read up on it.. Pressure plate looks stock but has 3,000 lbs clamp load vs. 2,200 lbs that the stock EVO 8 clutch has.