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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by b16a2delsol
No I didn't run on account im a little girl and i'm too afraid of hurting my car lol. And 17's aren't so bad as long as you are looking pretty and making turbo noises

And I don't understand why everyone runs slower times at RMR..... I know that a

N/A car will run slower because at sea level there is 14.7 psi being forced in the

motor ( yes forced because the only true vaccum is Space ) and Utah ( depending

on where you are at ) can be as low as 12.8 Psi with a difference of 1.9 ~ 2.0

psi. 1 psi can equal from 14-19hp. Heat/air density, humidity, tune, all play a part of course.

Since we are all boosted here we will still push whatever psi our cars are set to. The only thing I can see is that we are taking longer to gather the extra 2 psi ????
You are almost correct. And for some cars it depends on how the boost is controlled and monitored. There are 2 different types of pressure readings, absolute and gauge. If you car is set to boost 20 psi gauge, then that means at sea level you are boosting 34.7 absolute pressure. In SLC you would only boost 32.8 psi absolute while still boosting 20 psi gauge. Also the air density plays a part in the efficiency of the turbo. You are right that an NA car looses alot more power because the difference in power from 14.7 to 12.8 is a larger % change than 34.7 to 32.8 psi. However there is still a lose.

On a track comparison, the actual elevation of RMR is 4225' with a 4400' NHRA factor and 7000' to 11000' corrected factor (all of that info is from the RMR website). That to me says that the track would be the equivalent of running at a much higher elevation meaning the track itself is pretty crappy because they know that the times are going to be even slower than what the 4225' elevation suggests it should be.

Wes it would be interesting to see what you would run now with your new set up at LV then come back up and do another few runs at RMR to see how much of a difference it really is. I was just guessing when I said .4-.5 but that's what I have heard from others also.
Old Jun 1, 2009 | 11:13 AM
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all mine times from RMR have been about 3/10 times higher than other tracks
Old Jun 1, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TwoFour
Should've came and said word to Me, Wes, Dallin, Nelson
Yeah it was kinda weird that you, just happened to be sitting right where we all sat.

Originally Posted by UT_Evo
Just for you Ryan: (And Evan, and all you other dickweeds that like big *** trucks)

LMAO that is so awesome.

Originally Posted by TwoFour
Oh yeah, hey Wes, Dallin, Thanks for telling me about Old Gregg. Funny ****.
K im lost...anyone care to enlighten me?

Originally Posted by Timmay81
pretty much all of our stinkers have 93. If you were in Lava that is only about 20 min from where i live. I go there every sunday in the winter to sit in the hot pools and during summer to float the river
Yeah you go east of Wyoming and you cant find 91, its usually all atleast 93 (atleast in the midwest and everywhere I have been in the south)

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I tried to add you and it said invalid user name. wtf
Did you try it without the space?
Old Jun 1, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by chuckbyu
You are almost correct. And for some cars it depends on how the boost is controlled and monitored. There are 2 different types of pressure readings, absolute and gauge. If you car is set to boost 20 psi gauge, then that means at sea level you are boosting 34.7 absolute pressure. In SLC you would only boost 32.8 psi absolute while still boosting 20 psi gauge. Also the air density plays a part in the efficiency of the turbo. You are right that an NA car looses alot more power because the difference in power from 14.7 to 12.8 is a larger % change than 34.7 to 32.8 psi. However there is still a loss.

On a track comparison, the actual elevation of RMR is 4225' with a 4400' NHRA factor and 7000' to 11000' corrected factor (all of that info is from the RMR website). That to me says that the track would be the equivalent of running at a much higher elevation meaning the track itself is pretty crappy because they know that the times are going to be even slower than what the 4225' elevation suggests it should be.

Wes it would be interesting to see what you would run now with your new set up at LV then come back up and do another few runs at RMR to see how much of a difference it really is. I was just guessing when I said .4-.5 but that's what I have heard from others also.
Woot, I hated trying to explain this and the whole "why bigger turbos at the same PSI yield more hp" back with the old crew.

The only other thing I can add is that part of the reason NHRA factors it to that much higher is partially because the air quality is so crappy. Less oxygen because of being high up, but also less oxygen for being such polluted air. Oxygen is the only part of the air your car needs to burn, the other crap is just... crap... If you did like an O2 injection kit you would probably run even faster even at sea level You'd also have a high chance of making your car explode in a giant fireball.
Old Jun 1, 2009 | 01:23 PM
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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Oh yeah, Xboxlive for Dallin is without the space...

And Ryan: You tube "Old Greg"
Old Jun 1, 2009 | 01:39 PM
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Ill check it out when my phone finishes downloading the OS update
Old Jun 1, 2009 | 01:56 PM
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I've got it lol but for ps3
PS3 ftl. Come on wes. What are you doing?!? lol

Are we tuning your car next week or what? I need to put the schedule together.
Old Jun 1, 2009 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by eficker
PS3 ftl. Come on wes. What are you doing?!? lol

Are we tuning your car next week or what? I need to put the schedule together.
He has gotten the RROD like 4 or 5 times and switched
Old Jun 1, 2009 | 02:15 PM
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Chuck it would be really nice to compare First I need to get a good time out at rmr lol. I just threw on the intake manifold and throttle body on yesterday ( Josh thanks again for lending your tools and garage ) So when's the next rmr test n tune? I'd like to run that and ficker is going to tweak the tune a little when he comes up
Old Jun 1, 2009 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by eficker
PS3 ftl. Come on wes. What are you doing?!? lol

Are we tuning your car next week or what? I need to put the schedule together.
PS3 ftw I have two of em

Yea I need a lil touch up now you know my # throw me a text man
Old Jun 1, 2009 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by wesside
PS3 ftw I have two of em

Yea I need a lil touch up now you know my # throw me a text man
ya and I have 3 XBOX's I WIN

Super Sick Video here guys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ7R_buZPSo
Old Jun 1, 2009 | 02:51 PM
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Yeah, well, 2 Xbox 360s, 1 Xbox, 1 Game Cube, 1 N64, 1 Super NES, 1 Sega Genesis, 2 Wiis, 1 PS3, 1 PSP, 1 Gameboy SP (I think...), 1 Gameboy DS.

And like 8 computers

Our old family 360 RRODed, sent it to MS and they gave us a new one, and it was nearly to the 3 year old mark. RROD isn't why I hate it, mine has never RRODed, but it likes to think it can't read brand new games a lot, runs REALLY loud and hot, is laggier than my PS3 in equal games, doesn't have HDMI, can't play bluerays, has a slower/crappier network connectin (and doesn't have built in wireless), and to top it all off: They CHARGE for using games on the internet AND it isn't anywhere near backwards compatible (even games that do work on it, work very very poorly).

I unhooked my 360 waaaay back when I took it over to try linking COD:World at War for **** Zombie's at a friend's (you may remember that, I asked whey COD was only letting one person per Xbox play). The 360 is still unhooked just sitting on the floor of the game room That's how often I use it.
Old Jun 1, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by wesside
Chuck it would be really nice to compare First I need to get a good time out at rmr lol. I just threw on the intake manifold and throttle body on yesterday ( Josh thanks again for lending your tools and garage ) So when's the next rmr test n tune? I'd like to run that and ficker is going to tweak the tune a little when he comes up
Anytime for the "king of clean"
Old Jun 1, 2009 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by UT_Evo
Yeah, well, 2 Xbox 360s, 1 Xbox, 1 Game Cube, 1 N64, 1 Super NES, 1 Sega Genesis, 2 Wiis, 1 PS3, 1 PSP, 1 Gameboy SP (I think...), 1 Gameboy DS.

And like 8 computers

Lol, whoa jake game addict.

Never had a problem with mine, but it does have hdmi. It's the black one, I dont think the white one had hdmi.


Wes, I'll be there tuning tues through thurs, when do you wanna come? If you bring another evo to be tuned, i'll hook you up large style!

I'm also tuning subarus, so if any of you guys have friends that need that done, hit me up!



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