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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 08:01 AM
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<-- Sick, tired and generally pissed off with too much **** going on lately.

Hey, if you guys would stop posting your "Imaginary Mustang Dyno to Dynojet Corrected" numbers (or any other obscure correction you feel is reasonable but don't have a shred of fact to back it up with), I'd stop with the dyno stuff.

But when you guys are sitting there saying "I would make XXX WHP on a Dynojet because I made YYY on a Mustang Dyno" and then tell me "Dynos are just tools," it looks pretty retarded. Which is it? Are they tools or are they actually standards of comparison?

I'm going with the first, because that's what they are. But I'm open for argument on how you can possibly compare numbers on one dyno to another. It better be fact based though and not just "That's what so and so said."
Old Apr 9, 2007 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 03whitegsr
<-- Sick, tired and generally pissed off with too much **** going on lately.

Hey, if you guys would stop posting your "Imaginary Mustang Dyno to Dynojet Corrected" numbers (or any other obscure correction you feel is reasonable but don't have a shred of fact to back it up with), I'd stop with the dyno stuff.

But when you guys are sitting there saying "I would make XXX WHP on a Dynojet because I made YYY on a Mustang Dyno" and then tell me "Dynos are just tools," it looks pretty retarded. Which is it? Are they tools or are they actually standards of comparison?

I'm going with the first, because that's what they are. But I'm open for argument on how you can possibly compare numbers on one dyno to another. It better be fact based though and not just "That's what so and so said."
Im not, and was not trying to get into this dyno argument bull****. I was sayin to wes that we need to plan a trip and get tuned. Thats all I was saying. And Im sorry if that wasnt directed at me.
Old Apr 9, 2007 | 11:43 AM
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This thread gets like this about every 100 pages... We gotta ***** about something to each other.
Old Apr 9, 2007 | 12:08 PM
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That's right!

Like I said, I've been sick anyway and I'm in a ****ty mood. Must be that time of the month or something.

Sorry if I'm arguing just to argue, but the whole dyno comparison thing is one thing that easily annoys me on message forums. It's probably because you get one person that is reputable saying that there is some kind of valid correlation and then you have 50 people saying the same **** when it's wrong. Then you have some kind of "standard" that is complete BS and then it turns into pissing matches between those that are following along with what they are told (even though it's wrong) and those with valid reasons of why that standard is wrong.

Basically it turns into an entire community believing misinformation and they will fight you every step of the way if you try to correct them. IF you want to see this in it's prime, go over to the MR2 boards. I'm not some forum ***** that likes to be on every forum so I do have real experience on the matter. You have ATS racing that is the biggest vendor over there. They are wrong on some much **** and yet so many people just follow along blindly and they will jump your **** if you try to correct their "leaders."I've spend a LOT of time building an MR2 and I got on there after I was mostly finished. What I experienced first hand was considerably different then what ATS pushes so I voiced my opinion that they might be wrong on a few things or that they should rethink some of their modifications. For example, it is common belief that to make over 320 WHP, you have to upgrade the cams and intake manifold. I made 360 WHP at 20 PSI on the stock parts so I pointed this out to them and people had a conniption. Likely because they don't want to admit they got screwed out of $2000 in cams and manifolds for no reason other then because that's what you "HAVE" to do according to the all knowing ATS.

Anyway [/vent] I'm done for a few weeks. By then I'll be done with finals, FE Exams, year project, hopefully not still sick, and I might be able to carry on a rational conversation.

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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 12:39 PM
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by VIIImylunch
i really loved my 280 cams. I didnt notice much low end power loss, but I did notice a lot of top end pull. What are you using to tune? you gas mileage should not be that bad.
right now im not tuned at all im trying to find time to get down to munoa's dyno.
Old Apr 9, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mike314
right now im not tuned at all im trying to find time to get down to munoa's dyno.

did you fix your 02 situation????
Old Apr 9, 2007 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by silverofs
did you fix your 02 situation????
yeah i just soldered on some extra wire and its out of the way of everything now and hopefully wont fry anything. the idle is more consistent now but still pretty lumpy
Old Apr 9, 2007 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mike314
yeah i just soldered on some extra wire and its out of the way of everything now and hopefully wont fry anything. the idle is more consistent now but still pretty lumpy
sweet do the lifters sound ok???? get that sucker tuned & you should see some good power increase!!!!!!!
Old Apr 9, 2007 | 08:09 PM
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i want to get a ride in your car after its tuned mike, give me a call.. let me know when you are getting tuned i kinda want to come down and check it out see what power you are making with cams.
Old Apr 9, 2007 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by silverofs
sweet do the lifters sound ok???? get that sucker tuned & you should see some good power increase!!!!!!!
yeah the lifters actually sound better than they did with the stock cams in alot less noise so thanks again. and yeah i need to save some for the tune
Old Apr 9, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by evobeatsti
i want to get a ride in your car after its tuned mike, give me a call.. let me know when you are getting tuned i kinda want to come down and check it out see what power you are making with cams.
alright i will call you when the time comes hopefully here in the next week and could you pm me and tell me how much your tune was and how many maps you got.

Thanks
Old Apr 9, 2007 | 09:24 PM
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Ugh freakin orthodontist my teeth hurt
I think that it's about time we make a little trip to RMR, anyone else down.
BTW I think I'm going to be heading down to Munoa's again soon, I talked to my neighbor the other day and he has this....um...."secret" part he wants to put on my evo and see what kind of gains I get with upgraded turbo.
Old Apr 9, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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Im down when does RMR open i want to see what the car has in it and me.
Old Apr 9, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by EVO MR 28
Ugh freakin orthodontist my teeth hurt
I think that it's about time we make a little trip to RMR, anyone else down.
BTW I think I'm going to be heading down to Munoa's again soon, I talked to my neighbor the other day and he has this....um...."secret" part he wants to put on my evo and see what kind of gains I get with upgraded turbo.
i'd definately be down for an RMR day, i'll call them tomorrow and ask when we can get on, what neighbor and what part? i hope it isnt some bull**** turbonator thing that will just get sucked into your turbo and ruin your car lol.

Originally Posted by mike314
Im down when does RMR open i want to see what the car has in it and me.
yah i want to watch my bad driving skills get me 14 second times



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