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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by VIIImylunch
yeah i am being completely sarcastic. the evo was alright, but the s2k w/ boost is way more fun!

also what oil cooler are you running?
I'm running a Mocal; though I would not recommend it to you.

Before the Mocal ($300+) I was running a Tru-Cool ($72). There was NO change in oil temps switching from the Tru-Cool to the Mocal.

With that said, I'll sell you my Mocal for cheap as I'd like to switch to a Perma-Cool.
Old Apr 11, 2007 | 08:41 PM
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ugh i wish i could come out for the open track tomorrow but i'm going to Oklahoma for the first BIG go kart race of the season, i'm stoked there are over 40 competitors signed up for my class. Nothing like going 90 mph 1 inch off the ground surrounded by 20 other drivers that want to get up front as bad as you. But then you realize you have no seatbelt, no rollcage, and the guy behind you is PISSED because you took him out in practice...oops.
Old Apr 11, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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you dont have any sort of seat belt on your cart?? thats suprizing to me but i dont cart race. when do you get back?
Old Apr 11, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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Haha no way they're made so that when you flip you fly out instead of staying in and landing on your head, get back sunday night late
Old Apr 11, 2007 | 09:32 PM
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Hmm a cart with a roll-cage might look kinda cool though... Or maybe not...

What series do you usually compete in Mike? 125cc Shifters or the Rotax?
Old Apr 11, 2007 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by UT_Evo
Hmm a cart with a roll-cage might look kinda cool though... Or maybe not...

What series do you usually compete in Mike? 125cc Shifters or the Rotax?
Mainly focus on rotax...I have a stock 125 shifter that I mess around in though. Rotax is more fun cause you don't have as much to worry about just drive it.
Old Apr 11, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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Yeah, and it is a lot more popular as well from what the Msquared racing guys told me forever ago when I was fooling around with the idea of karting. But then I realized there's too many kids with your talent out there that I would only slow down when they tried to lap me So I figured I'd keep to perfecting my car driving skills so that I could be the young kid... Plus spending the money that didn't exist for a kart didn't make sense. Especially without the ability to get it out to the track (or any other tracks too)
Old Apr 11, 2007 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MSM_S2K
If you are going to quote me to attempt and prove a point, you should probably not snip parts and take my words out of context.


This is what I said immediately before that...
Originally Posted by 03whitegsr
Point is, both dynos need inputs from the operator that can GREATLY affect the measured power figures. As such, DYNOS SHOULD NOT BE COMPARED!!! Also, you want to make sure they are consistently putting in the same information every time you tune the car so that your readings are consistent to each other.
Thus, unless every operator puts in the exact same numbers, a direct comparision is not possible. It's not a matter of an operator ERROR but merely a difference in operator input. Christian could consistently put in certain configuration numbers and get consistence results for that car. A different operator runs it, puts in different numbers...inconsistent results...

With that said...I'm done with it...unless somebody else takes my words out of context in an attempt to prove a point?

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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 03whitegsr
Oh yeah and I'm a 12 year old school girl
j/p man, j/p, chill.
Old Apr 11, 2007 | 11:54 PM
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I've killed for less...

Nah, you are right, it's pointless to argue but he did take what I said out of context. I just have a personal vendetia against anybody that posts about dyno numbers, regardless of what they are saying.:P
Old Apr 12, 2007 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 03whitegsr
If you are going to quote me to attempt and prove a point, you should probably not snip parts and take my words out of context.


This is what I said immediately before that...


Thus, unless every operator puts in the exact same numbers, a direct comparision is not possible. It's not a matter of an operator ERROR but merely a difference in operator input. Christian could consistently put in certain configuration numbers and get consistence results for that car. A different operator runs it, puts in different numbers...inconsistent results...

With that said...I'm done with it...unless somebody else takes my words out of context in an attempt to prove a point?
I don't see how the quote was at all out of context. You wrote what you wrote and I quoted it.

A DIRECT comparison of exact numbers was never the issue in my mind. As I pointed out: same operator, same dyno, same day ... or even the same hour ... three different pulls on the dyno will get you different numbers.

Cobb has an excellent dyno and an excellent operator.
Old Apr 12, 2007 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 03whitegsr
Lastly, Cobbs dyno does not seem to be CONSISTENTLY off in any one direction, which, in my mind proves it is operator based.
Here's the quote. I really don't see how this is out of context.

Cobbs dyno = inconsistent. Not consistenly off in any one direction.

----> Prooves operator error. Is the position you took.

Are you saying that the inconsistency of the Cobb dyno prooves operator error btwn Christian and other dyno operators? That makes no sense.

You make strong statements, provide anecdotal stories ... and then go off about how upset others make you.

And then now accuse me of mis-quoting you taking something out of context. The quoted statement above stands on it's own, makes no reference what-so-ever to other dynos or to other operators.
Old Apr 12, 2007 | 10:46 AM
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Why even argue you guys? The whole point of a dyno is to see what modifications do to the car... If you have a baseline on dyno x and then get tuned on dyno y, you shouldn't even be trying to calculate how to convert the numbers, just go get dynoed on dyno x again if you really care...

But just so you know I did 272 to the wheels on COBBs mustang, that's 60 less than Mike, and since I'm an '03 8 I'm about 13 less to begin with... I dunno numbers that should be gained for his mods, but I think about 47 is pretty good and about right on for the gains I would be expecting. But what do I know anyway.
Old Apr 12, 2007 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by UT_Evo
Why even argue you guys? The whole point of a dyno is to see what modifications do to the car... If you have a baseline on dyno x and then get tuned on dyno y, you shouldn't even be trying to calculate how to convert the numbers, just go get dynoed on dyno x again if you really care...

But just so you know I did 272 to the wheels on COBBs mustang, that's 60 less than Mike, and since I'm an '03 8 I'm about 13 less to begin with... I dunno numbers that should be gained for his mods, but I think about 47 is pretty good and about right on for the gains I would be expecting. But what do I know anyway.
i think mike should have a decent 60 whp on me and maybe 80 on you since you have the 9.8 hotside vs my 10.5 and my random boltons have to add up to some sort of power. but this guess is just from comaprisons between cars like ours on the same dynos. what is the deal with the gsc's jake? are you going to put them on or what?
Old Apr 12, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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