ACCOLADE - RPW 4-1 Header System Prototype Pics Released !
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450 is not a bad price, just wondering if the larger pipes will give more hp , or if they may take some lower end torque, also wondering what ecu is better the rrm piggy or the interceptor? and which one of those give more hp and better price?? thank god that people in the aftermarket world have made stuff for our cars or we'd be sittin around with a finger up our a$$
Originally Posted by jerseyjap
450 is not a bad price, just wondering if the larger pipes will give more hp , or if they may take some lower end torque, also wondering what ecu is better the rrm piggy or the interceptor? and which one of those give more hp and better price?? thank god that people in the aftermarket world have made stuff for our cars or we'd be sittin around with a finger up our a$$
They haven't dynoed the header with the larger pipes yet, so we do not know. The interceptor package isn't done yet either, so we can't make any comparisons there either. Mitsiman posted earlier as to the benefits of the Interceptor package. I'm not sure if RRM's piggy allows for the same adjustments, perhaps someone who owns the RRM piggy and software who has read Mitsimans post might be able to chime in and offer us some differences between the two that they can spot offhand? The RRM piggy looks to be much less expensive. I do not know if that's any indication as to which will be the more feature filled.
Originally Posted by Mitsiman
well in summary I don't know a lot about the RRM piggy back setup but the Haltech interceptor will have teh following details
1 - full control on fuel curve at something like 30 rpm points
2 - full control on ignition curve at something like 30 rpm points
3 - you can either use the hot wire sensor or MAP sensor on the ralliart to tune the ignition curve points for finer control (Especially if you are going turbo)
4 - duel mapping - ability to tune for two different fuels, or if you want to run NOS a NOS map and seperate ignition / fuel curves for NOS setup
5 - The ability to alter the mivec change over point (Still to test this function)
6 - can run up to 4 other functions like a water sprayer, NOS solenoids etc
7 - can run seperate air intake tempature mapping (Especially for turbo) for fuel and ignition
8 - won't effect cold start or idling cause you can set the load % or rpm % before the unit starts altering the settings
I think this covers everything.
1 - full control on fuel curve at something like 30 rpm points
2 - full control on ignition curve at something like 30 rpm points
3 - you can either use the hot wire sensor or MAP sensor on the ralliart to tune the ignition curve points for finer control (Especially if you are going turbo)
4 - duel mapping - ability to tune for two different fuels, or if you want to run NOS a NOS map and seperate ignition / fuel curves for NOS setup
5 - The ability to alter the mivec change over point (Still to test this function)
6 - can run up to 4 other functions like a water sprayer, NOS solenoids etc
7 - can run seperate air intake tempature mapping (Especially for turbo) for fuel and ignition
8 - won't effect cold start or idling cause you can set the load % or rpm % before the unit starts altering the settings
I think this covers everything.
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Hey thanks, I read that too. Nowhere however does it mention what RRM's does in comparison. *THAT* is what I was hoping for. Again, anyone who perhaps owns an RRM piggy want to chime in and perhaps offer the differences?
I'm guessing splice in since NO ONE makes a jumper harness for our cars. Do a search for one and you'll see I've looked everywhere for one w/ no success. Break out the wire strippers and solder, we've got some warranty to void.
Originally Posted by amg_dragon
I'm guessing splice in since NO ONE makes a jumper harness for our cars. Do a search for one and you'll see I've looked everywhere for one w/ no success. Break out the wire strippers and solder, we've got some warranty to void.
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Yes the interceptor is a cut and join job. You only need to cut and join around 7 wires with this system though for the core unit, the rest would be wire seperatly (Wiring harness supplied) if you were doing things like NOS etc.
Originally Posted by Mitsiman
well in summary I don't know a lot about the RRM piggy back setup but the Haltech interceptor will have teh following details
1 - full control on fuel curve at something like 30 rpm points
2 - full control on ignition curve at something like 30 rpm points
3 - you can either use the hot wire sensor or MAP sensor on the ralliart to tune the ignition curve points for finer control (Especially if you are going turbo)
4 - duel mapping - ability to tune for two different fuels, or if you want to run NOS a NOS map and seperate ignition / fuel curves for NOS setup
5 - The ability to alter the mivec change over point (Still to test this function)
6 - can run up to 4 other functions like a water sprayer, NOS solenoids etc
7 - can run seperate air intake tempature mapping (Especially for turbo) for fuel and ignition
8 - won't effect cold start or idling cause you can set the load % or rpm % before the unit starts altering the settings
I think this covers everything.
1 - full control on fuel curve at something like 30 rpm points
2 - full control on ignition curve at something like 30 rpm points
3 - you can either use the hot wire sensor or MAP sensor on the ralliart to tune the ignition curve points for finer control (Especially if you are going turbo)
4 - duel mapping - ability to tune for two different fuels, or if you want to run NOS a NOS map and seperate ignition / fuel curves for NOS setup
5 - The ability to alter the mivec change over point (Still to test this function)
6 - can run up to 4 other functions like a water sprayer, NOS solenoids etc
7 - can run seperate air intake tempature mapping (Especially for turbo) for fuel and ignition
8 - won't effect cold start or idling cause you can set the load % or rpm % before the unit starts altering the settings
I think this covers everything.
Just to change the tone here... I just thought I would share a few things with you, I was able to steal my car again from the workshop to get it ready for an upcoming car show this weekend and for the last couple of days I have been driving it around the local streets which is nothing too exciting except for all the damn small roundabouts... this is were the fun really starts slap the car into 2nd and cruise around at half pace see the road starting to straighten up and floor it the car pulls away with absolutly no effort at all reach for third and you are now doing over the speed limit.... and then you are hunting around for another round about... I can't believe how much of a difference the new headers are making to the car were as the previous headers were extremely chocked up and asthmatic almost to the point of gagging... the car now feels so much more throttle responsive, power is now more instantanious than it was previously....
Truely guys when RPW and Accolade give you a release time for which set to get I really do recommend you get these they are certainly worth it... I know this may sound like a sales pitch to many of you but I do not work for either company and if I did not like what I was seeing and feeling in the car you would know about it or more like I would not write about it.... the real shame about all of this is that at the end of this weekend the car goes back to RPW for more work - I will miss the car and the fun
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Truely guys when RPW and Accolade give you a release time for which set to get I really do recommend you get these they are certainly worth it... I know this may sound like a sales pitch to many of you but I do not work for either company and if I did not like what I was seeing and feeling in the car you would know about it or more like I would not write about it.... the real shame about all of this is that at the end of this weekend the car goes back to RPW for more work - I will miss the car and the fun
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Doh! I was hoping for some updates. Good to hear about the perkiness though! Do you have any idea about when they're going to mock up the turbo setup or further test the mivec switchpoint function? (yes I know it's #5 on mitsiman's list) I also know it takes time to R&D this stuff but it's hell when you look outside and see the weather getting nicer (except for the surprise tornado this last weekend) and nothing nice and shiney left to put on your car. It's also hard to choose between the haltec and emanage if neither one can control Mivec, it becomes more price oriented then.