It very well is but chicks drive Evo's too.

 

I know that.

 

Mitsubishi is the 4th largest auto manufacturer in Japan and worldwide sells far more than Subaru. For example in the United Kingdom (Britain) Mitsubishi sold 29K cars in 08 compared to less than 5K for Subaru. Truth is that the US is the only large market in the world that Subaru is successful. Subaru just posted that they will still lose money in 08 and that is despite having two new models roll out in the Imprezza and Forrester.

 

Manufacturer - Monthly Sales - YTD Sales

1. Toyota - 18,999 - 238,983
2. Holden - 10,848 - 130,338
3. Ford - 7,499 - 104,715
4. Mazda - 6,641 - 79,826
5. Mitsubishi - 4,242 - 60,692
6. Nissan - 4,229 - 59,214
7. Honda - 3,420 - 52,571
8. Hyundai - 3,619 - 45,409
9. Subaru - 2,862 - 38,492
10. Volkswagen - 2,165 - 29,875

Total Market - 76,510 - 1,012,164

This is for the Australian market for 2008..

 

You Aussies don't like Hondas? It's strange to see them lower than Mitsubishi, Mazda, and Nissan.

 

Well don't forget that total sales is somewhat meaningless, Ford is still selling quite a lot of cars but it's hemorrhaging money like mad. Honda is still selling well but it's down a significant amount. Naturally a smaller car company will sell less.

 

I live in the U.S. market. I care what is sold in the U.S. market. If Mitsu is doing fine around the world, that's great, but if they can't survive in the U.S., I don't know if I'm willing to invest in a Mitsubishi.

I would feel the same if Subaru were doing equally bad in my market. Mitsu could conceivably pull out of he NA market, because they just don't sell enough here to warrant the cost. Luckily Subaru sells enough, AND builds enough in the U.S., that they are going to be here a while. Great Britain? That's a shame...

 

Buy a Subaru then because you are rehashing old talk. Really this Mitsubishi survival in the US is overplayed for the last 8 years. If they aren't pulling out during a recession they never will. US is a large market and companies like Mitsubishi and VW (also has had the pulling out of NA nonsence for a few years) will keep bringing cars for presence alone.

Also this ignorance that just because they are doing poor in the US that they will pull out of NA is insulting to the other coutries of the continent. They are doing fine in Canada so why would they pull out just because things aren't as rosy in the US?

 

Overplayed? The whole point of me posting was that one of the largest Mitsu dealerships on the west coast closed its doors. Over the last few years two OTHER Mitsu dealerships closed their doors in a market of 2 million people. Which leaves ONLY ONE dealership in my area. How is that old talk or even irrelevant hype? This just happened last month!

Now, I know you troll multiple forums, and you don't have anything better to do than get in the middle of Subaru versus Mitsu garbage...but as a guy WHO ACTUALLY WANTS TO BUY A RA (apparently not you), I'm a little nervous. Can you blame me? Well, I guess you can flame me... If you want to wire me some cash, say $25K U.S., I would happily drive to that lone Mitsu dealership and buy that RA. Because that's the most important thing right? Choosing the RA over the WRX? That's what your life has boiled down to, yeah?

Thanks for your thoughtful input into the dealings of what happens in the U.S. automotive market and how it doesn't seem to affect you because you are Canadian..I wouldn't be too encouraged about the decline rates that Mitsu posted last year. Canada could be equally affected if the U.S. folds...:EDIT: to say that I respect Canada, and its sovereignty as a nation. I DON'T want Mitsu to close its doors there. That's not what I'm trying to say at all, and I mean you no disrespect THAT WAY.:EDIT:

BTW, have you ever even owned a Mitsubishi...look at my join date, newb. That's when Mitsu's crisis in NA first began, and dealerships were closing their doors right and left. It's happening again, but this time there are less to go under, meaning there will be 0 rather than 1 or 2. To me, that matters 100%...

 

I bought an RA, I like it for what it is.
I love and hate the tranny at the same time, because it limits the car while making it an outstanding performing as is. IF you want to ADD power and rely on its drag strip potential, go for the GSR(mitsu) or your WRX. But if you want a slightly over-priced speed machine and nicely under priced AWD/superior Interior quality ,technology/a bad *** TC-SST gear box, then go for the RA.

the car is good for what you use it for..
drag-strip we all know it slightly under performs(atleast for now)
If you want raw speed in a straight then you need to invest your money in a different car.

Track, we all know thats where it shines with some decent tires. with superior shifting ability from the tc-sst.

an "all-around way of the future" car for under 30k.
is good enough for me.

thats just my 2 cents..that hopefully makes sense..

 

First of all I'm no troll.
Second of all if you actually read my so called 'trolling' you would see that I am in the market for a new car in the spring which originally had four cars on the list (EVO X, Ralliart, WRX, STI). The WRX is crossed off my list due to their inability to find and repair the bearing issue plaguing 09's.
Third of all just because a dealership in your area closes down it's pretty irresponsible to start spouting off that Mitsubishi is going to be pulling out of the US. I believe a market of 2 million does not represent 300 million.
Fourth I was driving a DSM before you probably had a drivers license. I have owned a 1992 Eagle Talon TSI, 1998 Eclipse GST and my wife currently drives a 2007 Outlander and a 2004 Lancer Ralliart before that. I may be a newb here but when it comes to experience with cars you would be like one of my sperm.

 

BTW: What part of 'Buy a Subaru' did you not understand? I told that to the other guy around here posting that was leaning to the WRX as well. If you are hesitant it's because it's not right. My life has boiled down into being in control not whining on forums that I don't know what to do because 'this' or 'that'. I'll choose what is the best car for me and that will have nothing to do with what anyone on a forum says.

 

883 posts and counting.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if it hits a thousand posts eventually. I'm sure someone will post up some "facts" about the RA which will then get discussed. Eventually the issue behind the blown Subaru motors will come to light and that will be discussed.

 

Yea Subaru need to fix that blown motor problem. Its unacceptable no matter how fast it is. LOL. I'm sorry, i jus had to do it.