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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 06:13 PM
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Ya know? I think we have bigger things to worry about than cars. I love cars. But if this recession turns into a depression...well, poop.

I was so stoked about an RA SB cuz I test drove an RA yesterday, now I'm bummed. Who even cares about the RA WRX rivalry anymore? WACK!
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 06:14 PM
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This is so everyone can see all the numbers:

Mitsubishi

Car: 74,909 vs. 85,159, down 12.0 percent

Truck: 22,348 vs. 43,834, down 49.0 percent

Vehicle: 97,257 vs. 128,993, down 24.6 percent

Subaru

Car: 115,974 vs. 124,759, down 7.0 percent

Truck: 71,725 vs. 62,363, up 15.0 percent

Vehicle: 187,699 vs. 187,122, up 0.3 percent

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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 06:20 PM
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Don't let all the doom and gloom get you down. But I agree, now is not the smartest time to think about buying a new car. I personally blame the media for hyping the bad economy and then the bailout for scaring the **** out of everyone. As Winston Churchill once said..."and this too shall pass".
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 06:23 PM
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http://investing.businessweek.com/re...BDAI&symbol=GM

...this is where I pulled my data from...same source.

not sure why "all the numbers" makes any difference. If a car line went up relative to a failing truck line, the manufacturer, in this market, won't have time to retool. It will simply fold. And that's why the Big 3 is getting "bailout" loan money from the GOV, so it can retool and shift operating costs.
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dboz
Don't let all the doom and gloom get you down. But I agree, now is not the smartest time to think about buying a new car. I personally blame the media for hyping the bad economy and then the bailout for scaring the **** out of everyone. As Winston Churchill once said..."and this too shall pass".
Thanks man. I'm old enough to remember a little of the 70's and ALL of the 80's. Ish happens, but we're sitting in a perfect storm right now, with all the "experts" clutching for relative models. There are none...and that's what's freakin me out.
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 06:32 PM
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Again, don't believe all you hear and read. There is a lot of politics and money to be handed out. I am skeptical that any bailout was necessary. I am a little worried that we are somehow selling out freedom under the guise of the environment and economy. Hang in there.

I am personally waiting to check out the new Genesis Coupe. It is RWD only but with the Mitsu block (yes they turn it horizontal), 6 speed manny, brembo brakes and a supposed cheap price, I say it is worth a look. Especially since Buschur is taking one on for some R&D. I see big numbers brewing on that one. I saw a turbo swap that was making 360whp in Korea. Nothing to sneeze at for a DD that should be close to 25k even after mods.

Check this out. 3200-3300 lbs curb weight also.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_UN0...eature=related
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 06:48 PM
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Businesses shutting down or laying off massive amounts of employess, the Government fighting 2 wars AND trying to pass LARGE stimulus bills while handing out foreign investor's subsidized loans, negative housing sales and halted construction projects, wage freezes, wildly fluctuating futures markets...all those things by themselves, sure, are scary media hype pieces. All together?

Skeptical or not, the reasons and chain of events leading up to this malaise may just be too much to undo, even for Churchill's wise observances. Something is going to change...and not for the better. Obama or not, here it comes.

I like my Forester...I most likely will just keep it. I don't do coupes...anymore.
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 06:53 PM
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apparently not in Central or North Florida
South Florida as well. Florida doesn't need AWD other states above us do.
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 06:53 PM
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Too bad the Eclipse didn't turn out looking like that...the Eclipse is garbage.
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mikysee
This is so everyone can see all the numbers:

Mitsubishi

Car: 74,909 vs. 85,159, down 12.0 percent

Truck: 22,348 vs. 43,834, down 49.0 percent

Vehicle: 97,257 vs. 128,993, down 24.6 percent

Subaru

Car: 115,974 vs. 124,759, down 7.0 percent

Truck: 71,725 vs. 62,363, up 15.0 percent

Vehicle: 187,699 vs. 187,122, up 0.3 percent

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I wonder what they consider a truck for Subaru, would that be the Tribeca and Forester (in which case it makes sense)?
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 07:01 PM
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I thought the same thing. Tribeca for sure, must be the Forester included, there is no way they are selling that many Tribecas.
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RS-0
Too bad the Eclipse didn't turn out looking like that...the Eclipse is garbage.
I do agree that the Genesis Coupe looks better but the Eclipse is a panty dropper, atleast over here. My homeboy got a break from a lady cop cause she like his 07. And he was driving with an expired license, tag and no insurance. I know plenty of chicks that love it.
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
I wonder what they consider a truck for Subaru, would that be the Tribeca and Forester (in which case it makes sense)?
I'm sure they mean the SUV line up. Some ppl refer to them as "trucks". Don't know why but yea.
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 07:16 PM
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That's because the Eclipse is a chick's car .
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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I looked at the "special edition" on the showroom floor, complete crap. I don't have any stats backing that up, that's ALL my opinion...
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