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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 04:35 PM
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I think you have it backwards, there was some sort of issue with the STI that even Evos owners were pointint out as to a reason why it was an unfair comparison.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 06:00 PM
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And again, feel is not purely a 0-60 thing or a 1/4 mile thing. As an obvious example, take a 400 HP Evo and compare it to a Corvette. The 0-60 times are probably pretty close as are the 1/4 mile times but the cars will feel inherently different.
Good point, bad argument. We weren't comparing 4 cylinder turbos to v8's. We were comparing WRX vs. STI. Both 4 cylinder turbos. So they will feel more alike.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 06:32 PM
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OK fine, drive a turboed lancer and say it feels just like an Evo or a turboed civic compared to a WRX. An STI simply feels different. The boost hits differently.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 06:41 PM
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Anyone buying a new Subaru should consider the issues that have plagued the 08's. TruDelta uses actual repair data and not owner opinion so fanboys can't alter. You can see that the Impreza/WRX did horribly compared to even domestics. Subaru has gone to cheaper manufacturing processes with the 08's and it shows.

http://www.truedelta.com/latest_results.php
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 06:46 PM
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On the 08s yes, but that's no longer an issue anymore than broken gas pedals in the Evo. I love how that gets brought up in every thread as if it somehow changes the results of the test. The only way it does is if the WRX blows its motor so the Ralliart can actually pass it.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
On the 08s yes, but that's no longer an issue anymore than broken gas pedals in the Evo. I love how that gets brought up in every thread as if it somehow changes the results of the test. The only way it does is if the WRX blows its motor so the Ralliart can actually pass it.
Well you can look at it that the Ralliart owners will be able to save their money for mods while Subaru guys will have to save money to keep the car running. I have a feeling that the 09's will be amongst the worst cars in the industry much like the 08's seeing that the engine problem hasn't been fully rectified. You should feel vindicated that you bought the last year of the reliable Subarus.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 07:06 PM
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I can't believe this is 7 pages already.. people ranting back and forth over stupid numbers because thats all that makes their e-***** feel bigger. Some people are just too ignorant to realize how much of an excellent car the RA is compared to most on that list.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 07:10 PM
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I can't believe this is 7 pages already.. people ranting back and forth over stupid numbers because thats all that makes their e-***** feel bigger. Some people are just too ignorant to realize how much of an excellent car the RA is compared to most on that list.

thank you,

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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by heavyD
Anyone buying a new Subaru should consider the issues that have plagued the 08's. TruDelta uses actual repair data and not owner opinion so fanboys can't alter. You can see that the Impreza/WRX did horribly compared to even domestics. Subaru has gone to cheaper manufacturing processes with the 08's and it shows.

http://www.truedelta.com/latest_results.php
Wow, so on 25 cars, most of which went onto the internet due to having problems, we can conclude the entire run of thousands is trash.

By the way, my truck is on that survey, I have been tracking it for 2 years. It is owner reported, so technically, it could be altered by Amby.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 07:23 PM
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Well you can look at it that the Ralliart owners will be able to save their money for mods while Subaru guys will have to save money to keep the car running. I have a feeling that the 09's will be amongst the worst cars in the industry much like the 08's seeing that the engine problem hasn't been fully rectified. You should feel vindicated that you bought the last year of the reliable Subarus.
Except that Subaru has been covering all these problem motors and have clearly rectified the problem.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TruboPower
I can't believe this is 7 pages already.. people ranting back and forth over stupid numbers because thats all that makes their e-***** feel bigger. Some people are just too ignorant to realize how much of an excellent car the RA is compared to most on that list.
Yeah cause all the reviews clearly say that . Next time you call someone ignorant, make sure you don't have grammatical errors in your statement.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 08:29 PM
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I been an Evo fanboy since i first heard its comin here in 2002. parrallel to that, I have also never liked the design/looks/much else about subbies...
but guys, even I have to admit that the decision in this magazine review was not just based on #'s... yes, whether a ringer or not, the Wrx whipped the Ralliart's behind, which is crucial since we are discussing sports sedans... but it was so much more than just #'s.
They point out that the Subbie had more to offer as standard equipment, was more pleasing inside, was quieter and offered a higher level of refinement.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by S6devil
I been an Evo fanboy since i first heard its comin here in 2002. parrallel to that, I have also never liked the design/looks/much else about subbies...
but guys, even I have to admit that the decision in this magazine review was not just based on #'s... yes, whether a ringer or not, the Wrx whipped the Ralliart's behind, which is crucial since we are discussing sports sedans... but it was so much more than just #'s.
They point out that the Subbie had more to offer as standard equipment, was more pleasing inside, was quieter and offered a higher level of refinement.
Thank you.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by heavyD
Well you can look at it that the Ralliart owners will be able to save their money for mods while Subaru guys will have to save money to keep the car running. I have a feeling that the 09's will be amongst the worst cars in the industry much like the 08's seeing that the engine problem hasn't been fully rectified. You should feel vindicated that you bought the last year of the reliable Subarus.
By the way, I saw a thread where an X had the transfer case go bad and another that already lost a turbo.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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Oh those don't count just like the 2 gas pedals don't count, the oil leaks don't count, the car that was lemon lawed doesn't count, the bad tunes don't count, the paint problems don't count, the Recaro seat problems don't count, etc.
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