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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 08:25 PM
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I look forward to reading a review from the tunee.
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 09:18 PM
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so far so good, but im looking for more!!!
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 09:29 PM
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so far so good, but im looking for more!!!

at this rate our only hope OB1 Kenobi is....

more performance and less dancing, to be seen, huh? thats 26, thats pretty good. Thats damn good without any other mods. Lets keep going!
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 10:02 PM
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Our suspicions were that the Lancer Ralliart (RA) would have similar torque protection and we have confirmed it in our testing thus far. The SST RA transmission will allow 30-45wtq gains before the clutch will slip as the ECU rejects torque over the limit allowed.

So does that mean this is the highest the RA can be pushed?
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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so far we are just not digging deep enought into the sst control unit. there is alot more to investigate.
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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 04:49 AM
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Am I missing something? It is not the control unit, it is the clutches slipping. There is not any more to get, that is all the trans can take.
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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 04:49 AM
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So does that mean this is the highest the RA can be pushed?
Yes, that looks like the limit.
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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 05:04 AM
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Are you sure it's the clutches that are slipping?
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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jRox
So does that mean this is the highest the RA can be pushed?
i thought that was clear the SST will limit the RA, not the engine.
Specially because it is tuned for the stock RA engine.
Until they dont figure the SST out, the limit will stay that tolerance range what the Getrag gave to the SST.
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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 05:49 AM
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guys, can you elaborate on my question above regarding the torque limiting of the ecu? does that mean that this is all that can be had from a ralliart in terms of power?

Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
You will notice that peak whp is 5547rpms in stock form, however with tuning it is now at 6287rpms.

The car really rips on the top end now.
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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 06:06 AM
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Remember this is a Stock Ralliart with NO mods.
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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
You will notice that peak whp is 5547rpms in stock form, however with tuning it is now at 6287rpms.

The car really rips on the top end now.

So the turbocharger isn't as small and incapable as some people were saying?
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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 07:23 AM
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now i feel ignored, no answer to above but another statement that confuses things.

so what does this mean, if you throw on intake and exhaust the tranny torque limiter will be moved up or threshold changed?

please do answer, even if you have to say the humbling "I dont know"



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Remember this is a Stock Ralliart with NO mods.
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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 08:10 AM
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The SST has a control unit that limits clutch engaging force, engagement timing / speed and monitors how much TQ is being applied. If there is an SST Evo X pushing x amount of HP/TQ then we should keep pushing.
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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by pltek
now i feel ignored, no answer to above but another statement that confuses things.

so what does this mean, if you throw on intake and exhaust the tranny torque limiter will be moved up or threshold changed?

please do answer, even if you have to say the humbling "I dont know"
There are a number of employees within the thread, you are talking to multiple people.

The Lancer RA is new, it is unknown how the SST transmission will react to intake and exhaust, however the protection is torque related so no matter how maximum torque is reached, whether through tuning, parts or both, the results should be similar.

One think to mention is that running the car in one gear on the dyno and running it through the gears as it would normally continue to shift, it is easier to avoid the torque protection from overriding the clutch.

First gear from a standstill after tuning does have an enormous gain in torque however.
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