Ohhh I seeee!!! Wait what...?

 

The Ralliart doesn't have mind boggling performance. This makes sense in light of its weight and listed power. If it's making the power some people seem so keen to claim, it's anemic.

 

How is it anemic? 220whp + 3400 lbs does not equal a race car! And have you even driven the car? It's not a slug like you make it out to be.

 

If the car is making the kind of power some people (like you) have suggested, the performance numbers are a real let down. If the car has near Evo power stock, why does it come in last in basically every comparison? Why have some reviews posted absolutely horrible specs? You can blame the weight and the tires all you want but it still doesn't line up. I never said the car was "slow", just that if it has indeed been underrated, the performance numbers are pretty lame. If it's making 237 HP at the crank, they're perfectly fine.

 

Completely subjective.
I would like to see one thread where you do not bash the 2009 Ralliart.

 

Performance specs are not subjective, they're objective! By definition, a reviewer's opinions cannot (or rather, should not) have any bearing on how fast a car is, or how well it handles.
When have I ever actually bashed the Ralliart? I'm simply saying what we already know. Just because I say that the performance numbers are not fantastic doesn't mean I am bashing. That's like saying that because I say Oprah is overweight, I hate Oprah.

 

I don't want to get invloved in this pissing match but please show me these horrible specs. Performance numbers of the Ralliart are in the same ballpark as the WRX. Remember the 09 WRX hasn't won a single comparison either so if you want to play that way may as well say the GTI, MS3, and Cobalt SS crush both the WRX and Ralliart.

 

so that is mean the stock RA have 242 WTQ and the EVo X GSR have 256 wtq. THe GSR numbers are proven higher then a X MR.
Tons of posts about that. So it is a fact.
SO basically the X has only 14 wtq or rather /MR/ less? With much higher boost and bigger turbo etc?

Or miss understand something.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=381433

 

Actually in terms of performance the WRX has won nearly all I believe. It has the fastest 0-60 and I believe it also has the fastest 1/4 mile times, the only two numbers that are actually applicable here (since they are an indication of the HP and torque). If you wish to include other indicators of performance, it does quite well also. How the WRX does is irrelevant however. The Ralliart seems to always rank last. I don't agree with this (it should rank higher given all the features it has) but it is how it is. The performance numbers are not stellar, at least not if you wish to argue that the car was underrated. If it has 237 HP, the numbers are fine but if someone wants to argue that it has more (say 250 HP and 280 TQ), the numbers are absolute crap.

 

so that is mean the stock RA have 242 WTQ and the EVo X GSR have 256 wtq. THe GSR numbers are proven higher then a X MR.
Tons of posts about that. So it is a fact.
SO basically the X has only 14 wtq or rather /MR/ less? With much higher boost and bigger turbo etc?

Or miss understand something. PLs help

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=381433

 

I've been saying this for a page or more yet no one else has understood it.

 

I read the post above yours, but it doesn't make any sense to me? What are you saying, ambystom01?

 

You can say it as often as you like, until a "real" dyno chart ifor the RA is posted that shows otherwise there's nothing to dispute. You can't use a bunch of EVO dynos as your method of proving the RA dyno results are all inaccurate. Like I said before, 3 tuners have posted dynos showing right around ~220 whp for the RA. Until an RA dyno is provided that shows otherwise there's nothing to go on in this thread.

 

which 3 tuner? may i ask. I'm kinda lost here.

 

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