TTP-Engineering Tunes the 2009 Ralliart 4b11
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Some people were claiming that the 216 whp base run was proof that the Ralliart was underrated. I suggested that the dyno was high reading using a previously produced dyno from TTP as proof. I went on to suggest that it doesn't make much sense that the Ralliart dynos 14 WTQ less than the Evo thus further insinuating it's a high reading run.
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Some people were claiming that the 216 whp base run was proof that the Ralliart was underrated. I suggested that the dyno was high reading using a previously produced dyno from TTP as proof. I went on to suggest that it doesn't make much sense that the Ralliart dynos 14 WTQ less than the Evo thus further insinuating it's a high reading run.
Some people claim Mustang dynos throw out numbers of hp that actually touch the ground(hard to explain exactly how Ive heard many times from different people) where a DynoJet give higher numbers. wasnt this done on a Mustang dyno or maybe just isnt calibrated to the new hp rating standard?
I am so confused with this mess of a thread.
The Evo and R/A have the same motor. Without knowing what the VE is while comparing the 2 cars, I do not see why the R/A would not be that close to the Evo as far as TQ goes. The turbo is said to be a little smaller, but by how much? What airflow are both of these cars at by 5252 rpm that there would be a bigger difference???
Amby, are you saying the R/A should not make those numbers? What exactly are you trying to get at?
I honestly would expect the R/A to not be to far behind
Both are 2.0, both have the same value as RPM's go up and airflow is airflow. It looks like boost falls of quicker vrs the Evo, but that could be fixed. After a reflash I would expect even a closer gap as far as HP goes.
I also don't see where your going trying to compare the 2 cars, they can't be overlayed and then say they perform differently (I think maybe you are saying this) but the Evo is more aggresivly tuned.
You could also look at the 1st and 2nd gen DSM's. 1g was rated at 195hp and the 2g was 225hp but the 14b was a much better turbo
The Evo and R/A have the same motor. Without knowing what the VE is while comparing the 2 cars, I do not see why the R/A would not be that close to the Evo as far as TQ goes. The turbo is said to be a little smaller, but by how much? What airflow are both of these cars at by 5252 rpm that there would be a bigger difference???
Amby, are you saying the R/A should not make those numbers? What exactly are you trying to get at?
I honestly would expect the R/A to not be to far behind
Both are 2.0, both have the same value as RPM's go up and airflow is airflow. It looks like boost falls of quicker vrs the Evo, but that could be fixed. After a reflash I would expect even a closer gap as far as HP goes.I also don't see where your going trying to compare the 2 cars, they can't be overlayed and then say they perform differently (I think maybe you are saying this) but the Evo is more aggresivly tuned.
You could also look at the 1st and 2nd gen DSM's. 1g was rated at 195hp and the 2g was 225hp but the 14b was a much better turbo
The Ralliart is rated at 237 HP and 253 ft-lbs of torque. I believe this is what it makes given the performance numbers and the fact that I see no reason to doubt a manufacturer. What I am saying is that the base numbers presented here are high, that is all. They're not wrong, they're not fishy, they're just high. Trying to compare them to other results is a waste of time, the same car can have a 100 HP variance from dyno to dyno.
Wow, miss a day, miss alot (8pages)....not really. I feel like I am in a dryer....round and round.
TTP, just curious if the RA you installed the Zchip on, is a member on this forum. I was looking forward to reading a review and if any changes have been noticed in MPG etc.
Also, if you could keep us posted if you do any more RA tuning that would be great. Seeing if things stay pretty consistent car to car.
TTP, just curious if the RA you installed the Zchip on, is a member on this forum. I was looking forward to reading a review and if any changes have been noticed in MPG etc.
Also, if you could keep us posted if you do any more RA tuning that would be great. Seeing if things stay pretty consistent car to car.