No thanks, I'm happy responding to people's posts here.

 

^^^Ok but we can at least wait until more tuners get a hold of the car to tune before we can actually call it a problem. It could have been something else to have caused it to go into safe mode, just trying to keep an open mind until more tuners get a hold of it see what they can come up with, thats all.

 

Well TTP encountered this problem with the MR as well so unless it's a TTP unique problem (which I highly doubt), it's likely the TC-SST itself. We could have (and some of us actually did) seen this coming from a mile away. The TC-SST wasn't designed for modding, it was designed to add a bit of luxury to the Evo and the Ralliart. This shouldn't affect the Ralliart that much though, you can still get the TTP chip and have a pretty quick daily driver. We all know that if you wanted a racer, you'd buy the GSR.

 

obviously, but is TTP the only one having this problem are they the only ones that have even touched the RA or MR?

 

I just don't see how the car could only be out for such a short amount of time and for it to be like "game over" already?

 

It's not game over, there's still plenty of other mods still left to be made.

 

I'll bite.....

Wow you have amazing foresight! And you know like you designed it yourself what it's intensions are for and it's limitations. Do you work at mitsu too?

 

I'm not entirely sure.

 

No, I just actually listened to the people that did. Getrag said the transmission would only handle 350 ft-lbs, there were overheating issues being reported and Mitsubishi didn't even think it was suitable to use the transmission on the FQ-360. It doesn't take a mechanical genius to connect the dots. I'm a bit shocked at how quickly the protection kicked in but maybe it's tuned down a bit for the Ralliart (ie. more sensitive to slippage).

 

I dont think its "game over" yet. I havnt looked into all the details and all that crap yet about the SST, but since it has clutches that are apparently slipping causing the cpu to cut off torque to the SST since the clutches are apparently slipping, Im sure if someone wanted to they could change the programming of the SST and POSSIBLY swap out the clutches to better clutches then it could work but thats all hypothetical, bc Im sure some smart *** already did the research on the SST and is gonna blow this notion out of the water because Im sure a mod like that IF it was possible would cost too much money. People would rather turn this into a pissing contest on how much power the RA actually puts down when all they gotta do is a simple formula to figure out what a particular car is putting down.

 

Of course there is! in particular it won't be long for reprograming for the SST. The MR already has it, which is going to be a great addition to the RA. whether its programing for higher clamp force, or shift points to match the tuning level. Then there is riding the evo MR R&D wagon all the way to the track. You'll likely see bigger trans coolers to off set or supplement. Heat has reared it's ugly head for the MR guys

 

I'm not sure if programming will solve the slippage issue, if the clutches themselves are not gripping, I don't see what you can do. Upgrading the packs is an option but it'll be pretty pricey. At the moment Mitsubishi doesn't even work on the transmissions, if there's an issue they just replace it. I don't know how many tuners will be keen on opening up the transmission and fiddling with it/designing new packs, it could be a pretty expensive venture without any guarantee of it working or being profitable.
The reason this thread exploded is because some people don't understand that in order to declare something significant, you need a reference frame. Maybe I'm a bit spoiled since I have to deal with that kind of crap all the time. In my work, you need controls.

 

Ok I was only aware that Mitsu didnt work on the CVT, I didnt know they didnt work on the SST as well.

 

None of the dealer techs would go near a SST if it came in with issues.. it's not something you just jump into, @ BMW any problems with the smg's or fancy trannys and we replace the whole thing, end of story, $5k+ outta someones pocket. Sadly the TCU is usually what messes up first and the actually tranny is still good.

There was a release that said they will have a service manual next year though, but for now the units are '1 piece' and will either work or not

 

I think the clutch is operated by hydraulics so i'm sure the clamping force can be adjusted somehow through the computer. Mitsu or Getrag not wanting the technicians to open the unit is most likely a smart idea. Less money to train them on a new transmission, and if something goes wrong Getrag will receive the transmission in its current state, untouched. Eventhough their are a lot of computers, the transmission itself i believe has less parts then a normal transmission.