Thinking about Ralliart
It's irrelevant because the whole thing started because all I did was suggest someone look at the WRX along with a handful of other cars. But of course, since I said the W word, some people have to come out of the wood work to derail the thread and tell people never to look at the WRX.
Sigh. There's a difference between an anoying thing like a broken pedal or oil leak and a major thing like engine failure. Do you have any idea how ridiculous you look trying to compare major engine failures to two broken gas pedals, oil leaks, or rock chips? BTW: do you want me to post the Subaru 08+ rock chip registry?
Here's the incredible paint off a black 08 WRX and yes that's bare metal and rust;
Here's the incredible paint off a black 08 WRX and yes that's bare metal and rust;
It's irrelevant because the whole thing started because all I did was suggest someone look at the WRX along with a handful of other cars. But of course, since I said the W word, some people have to come out of the wood work to derail the thread and tell people never to look at the WRX.
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It's not like Subaru hasn't had time to resolve the problem and yet it still continues. I would be curious to see what is really going on behind close doors as bearing failure isn't rocket science. Is their bearing supplier letting them down? Cranks with poor tolerances? Cost cutting manufacturing processes? Something stinks but I doubt we will ever know.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mot...-from-WRC.html
It's about Subaru leaving WRC.
i remember seeing it somewhere.
and a lil more info.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...mpionship.html
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I wonder if this has anything to contribute to it?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mot...-from-WRC.html
It's about Subaru leaving WRC.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mot...-from-WRC.html
It's about Subaru leaving WRC.
The WRC is dieing as an organization. They even will, if they will be around, change they name in 2010.
the WRX have the same oil leak problem and feeding the turbo oil line too. . /See above my posted links/
Rock chips are better then your own door caused chips, as far as i can see.
Some wrx guy actually washed his own paint off form his bumper,in the car wash... How that sounds?
I can go on too
the Major problem is i see in these cases a following.
The Mitsubishi is highly under rated in the sates and the Subaru is the opposite.
The Mitsubishi experience and as a vehicle manufacturer is way beyond the Subaru boundaries.
I dont want to go into she said he said argue, but think about this.
Subaru make passenger cars. They got some decent history in racing too. Which is why i admire them.
In the other hands, the Mitsubishi, build passenger cars, suv, trucks, buses, tanks, airplanes etc.
Also they have exceed the racing history by 1000 times compere to subaru.
Thinking about only Paris Dakar.
Why happened this? I dont know. I think mainly because the marketing differences between a two company. Like Subaru have a factory backed up racing teams in the US like Ken Block team, the Mitsu just starting.../if/
And the fact the Mitsubishi came much later in the market in us then subaru.
Also wasn't Subaru in pearl harbor..
Rock chips are better then your own door caused chips, as far as i can see.
Some wrx guy actually washed his own paint off form his bumper,in the car wash... How that sounds?
I can go on too
the Major problem is i see in these cases a following.
The Mitsubishi is highly under rated in the sates and the Subaru is the opposite.
The Mitsubishi experience and as a vehicle manufacturer is way beyond the Subaru boundaries.
I dont want to go into she said he said argue, but think about this.
Subaru make passenger cars. They got some decent history in racing too. Which is why i admire them.
In the other hands, the Mitsubishi, build passenger cars, suv, trucks, buses, tanks, airplanes etc.
Also they have exceed the racing history by 1000 times compere to subaru.
Thinking about only Paris Dakar.
Why happened this? I dont know. I think mainly because the marketing differences between a two company. Like Subaru have a factory backed up racing teams in the US like Ken Block team, the Mitsu just starting.../if/
And the fact the Mitsubishi came much later in the market in us then subaru.
Also wasn't Subaru in pearl harbor..
Subaru has just as much racing experience as Mitsubishi. You cannot honestly say that one is better than the other. Hell, both companies owe the other a lot. It's also unfair to equate Mitsubishi cars with Mitsubishi the company, you might as well expand Subaru to Fuji Heavy Industries which makes aerospace and defense equipment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuji_Heavy_Industries).
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I wonder if this has anything to contribute to it?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mot...-from-WRC.html
It's about Subaru leaving WRC.
i remember seeing it somewhere.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mot...-from-WRC.html
It's about Subaru leaving WRC.
i remember seeing it somewhere.
I know, I should have grown to expect the anti-Subaru mentality (much like I expect the anti-Mitsubishi mentality on Subaru forums) but sometimes I do hope for a time when we can actually have useful discussions as opposed to the abortion that this thread has become.
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Exactly, this thread has absolutely nothing to do with Subaru's problems but of course, since someone suggested the OP look at the WRX, it's become the usual **** show. Did I say the OP should even buy the ****ing WRX? No, I said he should look at it just as he should look at the Ralliart, the Legacy GT, the MS3 and the GTI.
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That the mods have let it become.
Last edited by elpoole; Dec 23, 2008 at 12:28 PM.
Either way, the WRX would be a fine car. The OP said he didn't dig the interior / exterior. So that leaves him between a Evo X and Ralliart. Personally I'd try and get an Evo GSR. They are virtually the same cost from southcoast and have 0% for 6 years. Only reason to get a Ralliart is for the SST. Not worth the price to me. I'd rather have the evo. Many many people who own Evo X's are very happy with them. I say look into that.
Yeah because this whole thing is my fault when my first post was this
That's actually canadian for
If you actually check, this post was what started the whole gong show
when another member suggested the WRX as well.
This was another of my posts
Yep, it sure looks like I'm causing trouble when I state that the Ralliart is a fine daily driver and even with the TC-SST as a limitation, can be modded to be plenty fast.
The turbo is different, the intake system is different and it appears that the exhaust is slightly different (since aftermarket evo exhausts do not appear to fit). There also the entire drivetrain (Ralliart uses Evo 9 drivetrain), the brakes and the suspension. The Ralliart is more of a hopped up Lancer than a detuned Evo. Don't forget, the transmission appears to be the weakpoint of the car. With just a reflash, TTP activated the safe mode, which drops power thus I doubt you'll be able to heavily mod the car as you say, at least at the moment. As a daily driver though, the Ralliart is a good choice. Make sure you look at the MS3, GTI and WRX if you're considering the Ralliart. It all depends on what you want really.
Yo dog, teh Ralliart is teh homo car, the REX is king *****!!!!!!!! I just love Soobaru so much, I wish my car culd sex me up! Only cunsidar the Subaroo, Mitzu sucks!
Maybe he wants a car with an engine that doesn't spin rod bearings off the lot?
This was another of my posts
Exactly, for a daily driver I think the Ralliart is more than adequate. Even if it's limited to just a tune like the Zchip, it's still capable of being plenty fast for most people. To be completely honest, my stage 2 WRX is fast enough and it looks like with the Zchip the Ralliart is making essentially the same power.
There will always be that rivalry. Just like there is between ford and chevy, toyota and mazda. It's the nature of the game. Everyone is always going to defend their product... Unless something major happens.
Either way, the WRX would be a fine car. The OP said he didn't dig the interior / exterior. So that leaves him between a Evo X and Ralliart. Personally I'd try and get an Evo GSR. They are virtually the same cost from southcoast and have 0% for 6 years. Only reason to get a Ralliart is for the SST. Not worth the price to me. I'd rather have the evo. Many many people who own Evo X's are very happy with them. I say look into that.
Either way, the WRX would be a fine car. The OP said he didn't dig the interior / exterior. So that leaves him between a Evo X and Ralliart. Personally I'd try and get an Evo GSR. They are virtually the same cost from southcoast and have 0% for 6 years. Only reason to get a Ralliart is for the SST. Not worth the price to me. I'd rather have the evo. Many many people who own Evo X's are very happy with them. I say look into that.