Thinking about Ralliart
I'm sorry but that's complete BS and you know it. How many people on here are/were pissed at Mitsubishi at some point? You have Evo owners being denied service because they have a catback exhaust, you have people blowing their stock clutches and being accused of racing, you have transmission problems, transfer case problems, you have rattles, etc. I agree that Mitsubishi is an underrated company to an extent (in that very few people know about them), but they've had a lot of issues. My own experience wasn't horrible but I was still pissed when I was told that I'd have to pay 1300$ to repair a known problem (the infamous stuck heater knob).
Subaru has just as much racing experience as Mitsubishi. You cannot honestly say that one is better than the other. Hell, both companies owe the other a lot. It's also unfair to equate Mitsubishi cars with Mitsubishi the company, you might as well expand Subaru to Fuji Heavy Industries which makes aerospace and defense equipment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuji_Heavy_Industries).
Subaru has just as much racing experience as Mitsubishi. You cannot honestly say that one is better than the other. Hell, both companies owe the other a lot. It's also unfair to equate Mitsubishi cars with Mitsubishi the company, you might as well expand Subaru to Fuji Heavy Industries which makes aerospace and defense equipment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuji_Heavy_Industries).
Also, I'm not talking about supplying others... situation.
THIS IS SUBARU:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru
I suggest look up Mitsubsihi
no other nbame where i'm under...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi
besides the mitsubishi made a first passenger vehicle in japan /1917, 37 years before subaru build its first car/also the first awd one too/1937 , 17 years before the subaru made its first car/, etc.
It is really a shame you try to do that. Look up mitsubishi no other name and think about it.
^^^ that is a BS to state that is a Subaru . Big time ...
Also, I'm not talking about supplying others... situation.
THIS IS SUBARU:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru
I suggest look up Mitsubsihi
no other nbame where i'm under...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi
besides the mitsubishi made a first passenger vehicle in japan /1917, 37 years before subaru build its first car/also the first awd one too/1937 , 17 years before the subaru made its first car/, etc.
It is really a shame you try to do that. Look up mitsubishi no other name and think about it.
Also, I'm not talking about supplying others... situation.
THIS IS SUBARU:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru
I suggest look up Mitsubsihi
no other nbame where i'm under...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi
besides the mitsubishi made a first passenger vehicle in japan /1917, 37 years before subaru build its first car/also the first awd one too/1937 , 17 years before the subaru made its first car/, etc.
It is really a shame you try to do that. Look up mitsubishi no other name and think about it.
Fuji Heavy Industries is the parent company of Subaru. Mitsubishi is the parent company of Mitsubishi Motors, the automotive branch of the company much like Subaru is the automotive branch of Fuji Heavy Industries. This is the link you should have posted and had you read the link you posted, you would have known to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Motors.
http://www.mitsubishi.com/e/index.html
if some one want to know more.
about what you saying. Being supplier for Boeing etc. if you send ONE switch to the whole entire plane , you became a supplier dont you?
That is different when you build the ENTIRE plane. And GIVES a DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE and KNOWLEDGE ALSO.
That is why Mitsubishi CAN use his own names , when you dont see SUBARU planes flying around dont you? But you will see HONDA jet. Wonder why?
When you can use your own name there is a reason. Also there is a reason when you cant.
If you understand this fine if you dont. well ...
The Mitsubishi is way bigger company then subaru. its not even funny.
But we where strictly talking about, vehicle manufacturing, if you remember.
if some one want to know more.
about what you saying. Being supplier for Boeing etc. if you send ONE switch to the whole entire plane , you became a supplier dont you?
That is different when you build the ENTIRE plane. And GIVES a DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE and KNOWLEDGE ALSO.
That is why Mitsubishi CAN use his own names , when you dont see SUBARU planes flying around dont you? But you will see HONDA jet. Wonder why?
When you can use your own name there is a reason. Also there is a reason when you cant.
If you understand this fine if you dont. well ...
The Mitsubishi is way bigger company then subaru. its not even funny.
But we where strictly talking about, vehicle manufacturing, if you remember.
Last edited by Robevo RS; Dec 23, 2008 at 01:00 PM.
i said this:
"The Mitsubishi is highly under rated in the sates and the Subaru is the opposite.
The Mitsubishi experience and as a vehicle manufacturer is way beyond the Subaru boundaries.
I dont want to go into she said he said argue, but think about this."
"In the other hands, the Mitsubishi, build passenger cars, suv, trucks, buses, tanks, airplanes etc.
Also they have exceed the racing history by 1000 times compere to subaru.
Thinking about only Paris Dakar."
and you try to come back like subaru makes buses and so??
like the Isuzu bus, Volvo, Nissan? who are you kidding with?
Or buliding airplanes like:
Airbus,Boing, Hawker etc?
Your Link as known as Subaru by you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuji_Heavy_Industries
The link as known as Subaru is by me is this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru
"The Mitsubishi is highly under rated in the sates and the Subaru is the opposite.
The Mitsubishi experience and as a vehicle manufacturer is way beyond the Subaru boundaries.
I dont want to go into she said he said argue, but think about this."
"In the other hands, the Mitsubishi, build passenger cars, suv, trucks, buses, tanks, airplanes etc.
Also they have exceed the racing history by 1000 times compere to subaru.
Thinking about only Paris Dakar."
and you try to come back like subaru makes buses and so??
like the Isuzu bus, Volvo, Nissan? who are you kidding with?
Or buliding airplanes like:
Airbus,Boing, Hawker etc?
Your Link as known as Subaru by you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuji_Heavy_Industries
The link as known as Subaru is by me is this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru
Last edited by Robevo RS; Dec 23, 2008 at 12:53 PM.
example
Here is the Mitsubishi track compani, not Isuzu-Volvo etc.
http://www.mitsubishi-fuso.com/en/index.html
here is the Mitsubishi airplanes for sale:
http://www.pilotmarket.com/aircrafts...shi/index.html
or the news one of them :
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gener...aw031708p1.xml
The Mitsubishi as a company and as a car airplane etc. manufacturer is way beyond Subaru .
Try to leave what you see in the TV and try to open your mind. Every where else in the world they know what is mitsubishi. Sadly in the North american region not. But the problem they dont even want to know or admit.
Just as you are one perfect example.
Rob
Here is the Mitsubishi track compani, not Isuzu-Volvo etc.
http://www.mitsubishi-fuso.com/en/index.html
here is the Mitsubishi airplanes for sale:
http://www.pilotmarket.com/aircrafts...shi/index.html
or the news one of them :
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gener...aw031708p1.xml
The Mitsubishi as a company and as a car airplane etc. manufacturer is way beyond Subaru .
Try to leave what you see in the TV and try to open your mind. Every where else in the world they know what is mitsubishi. Sadly in the North american region not. But the problem they dont even want to know or admit.
Just as you are one perfect example.
Rob
Last edited by Robevo RS; Dec 23, 2008 at 01:08 PM.
My point was that Mitsubishi, as you know them, does not make planes, mining equipment, or TVs anymore than Subaru as you know them does. Mitsubishi the company (not Mitsubishi Motors, the people behind the Evo) does and Fuji Heavy Industries does as well but those companies are irrelevant thus making your point moot.
I'm getting really sick of this argument, as are other members. It has absolutely nothing to do with the original question and as you can see, I have been saying this for some time now (at least two pages). If you wish to continue it, start a new thread or take it to PMs. we don't need another thread derailed.
I'm getting really sick of this argument, as are other members. It has absolutely nothing to do with the original question and as you can see, I have been saying this for some time now (at least two pages). If you wish to continue it, start a new thread or take it to PMs. we don't need another thread derailed.
My point was that Mitsubishi, as you know them, does not make planes, mining equipment, or TVs anymore than Subaru as you know them does. Mitsubishi the company (not Mitsubishi Motors, the people behind the Evo) does and Fuji Heavy Industries does as well but those companies are irrelevant thus making your point moot.
I'm getting really sick of this argument, as are other members. It has absolutely nothing to do with the original question and as you can see, I have been saying this for some time now (at least two pages). If you wish to continue it, start a new thread or take it to PMs. we don't need another thread derailed.
I'm getting really sick of this argument, as are other members. It has absolutely nothing to do with the original question and as you can see, I have been saying this for some time now (at least two pages). If you wish to continue it, start a new thread or take it to PMs. we don't need another thread derailed.


" we don't need another thread derailed."
i dont think you are less guilty of that at all. I was defendig Mitsubishi and you do that for Subaru ,in the Mitsubishi RA thread.
So i dont know really who actually really did that.

Ps : but i'm glad you actually got the point in deep inside.
No hard feelings.
Hey guys STOP ARGUEING IN MY THREAD god damn! Got an email saying my subscribed thread had some replies, got excited to read why or why not I should get the RA... then its just a *****ing about subaru vs. mitsu! Who cares guys grow up a little, ive seen you same two people argueing in every thread.
I prefer mitsu, ESPECIALLY now that subie pulled out of this years rally racing. If your preference is different, thats great, I respect that, but please keep it to yourself or be nice about it!
Now then. Ive decided, I probably wont be modifying the car as much as maybe I had originally anticipated. Sometime down the line I may get a new exhaust and intake, and definitely a chip, but other than that I dont see myself doing much else (in the same way I planned on taking my m3 to dinan to turbo it and do all sorts of stuff, but never did). Even if I was gonna be modding the car, the GSR probably wont suite me as I dont really like manuals that much. MR seems to expensive, but if one of those comes up for under 30k ill be all on that (yeah right though).
I also think I just want a brand new car, so I can just... experience that, and so I can break it in and take care of it. If I got it new, I would also be a lot more committed to keeping it for longer.
Im thinking I may get rotor glow orange or octane blue, either way about a 30% tint all the way around, maybe ill pay off the shop for a 60-70% windshield tint too (yes, its illegal, I realize..). Then get some gunmetal rims, or paint the stockers in a dark metallic gray-ish shade. Then im gonna lower it and then just as time goes by, maybe see if any companies come out with nice lip kits or whatever, but im actually VERY happy with the ralliart's stock look.
The evo seems like too much car for me anyways. Its going to be a college car, and so I just want something reliable with a little oomph and AWD. People are saying ralliart takes too long to spool or this or that but really I dont think those problems will bother me.
Rotor Glow or Octane Blue is now my question to you guys. White is beautiful too, as is black, but dont want to keep them clean. Rotor Glow should shed off light dirt, as it will just blend in, but Octane Blue is so sexy.. but my last two cars were blue. I cant wait to test drive one of these puppies

Now then. Ive decided, I probably wont be modifying the car as much as maybe I had originally anticipated. Sometime down the line I may get a new exhaust and intake, and definitely a chip, but other than that I dont see myself doing much else (in the same way I planned on taking my m3 to dinan to turbo it and do all sorts of stuff, but never did). Even if I was gonna be modding the car, the GSR probably wont suite me as I dont really like manuals that much. MR seems to expensive, but if one of those comes up for under 30k ill be all on that (yeah right though).
I also think I just want a brand new car, so I can just... experience that, and so I can break it in and take care of it. If I got it new, I would also be a lot more committed to keeping it for longer.
Im thinking I may get rotor glow orange or octane blue, either way about a 30% tint all the way around, maybe ill pay off the shop for a 60-70% windshield tint too (yes, its illegal, I realize..). Then get some gunmetal rims, or paint the stockers in a dark metallic gray-ish shade. Then im gonna lower it and then just as time goes by, maybe see if any companies come out with nice lip kits or whatever, but im actually VERY happy with the ralliart's stock look.
The evo seems like too much car for me anyways. Its going to be a college car, and so I just want something reliable with a little oomph and AWD. People are saying ralliart takes too long to spool or this or that but really I dont think those problems will bother me.
Rotor Glow or Octane Blue is now my question to you guys. White is beautiful too, as is black, but dont want to keep them clean. Rotor Glow should shed off light dirt, as it will just blend in, but Octane Blue is so sexy.. but my last two cars were blue. I cant wait to test drive one of these puppies

I never said I was innocent, I'm partly responsible as I felt the need to respond to comments that I should have ignored. Nobody needed to defend their respective manufacturer in this thread, this wasn't a "Ralliart vs. the world" thread, it was someone asking advice about what cars to look at.
"People are saying ralliart takes too long to spool or this or that but really I dont think those problems will bother me."
actually i think is the opposite. The RA has a good spool .
actually i think is the opposite. The RA has a good spool .
"Hey guys STOP ARGUEING IN MY THREAD god damn! Got an email saying my subscribed thread had some replies, got excited to read why or why not I should get the RA... then its just a *****ing about subaru vs. mitsu! Who cares guys grow up a little, ive seen you same two people argueing in every thread. "
I defend RA he defends WRX. that is why.
I defend RA he defends WRX. that is why.
As I said, no one should have felt the need to defend any car in this thread. We need the swear filter to block out words like STI and WRX, that way people won't get upset when they're said.
Do not buy your new Ralliart in Georgia.






