Thinking about Ralliart
i agree with ambystom01 its not so much a mod friendly car but i can vouge that it is a very exiting car to drive i happen to know this because i did some what i like to call topgear driving with a new 09 ralliart and i must say i was impressed with how well it preformed the only reason i could beat it up like this is cus my family are mitsubishi new car dealers so i wouldnt think to quickly of talking the ralliart of your list
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Many people do not know the extent of The MITSUBISHI Companies and what they produce!! MHI=MITSUBISHI Heavy Industries-Turbos for MITSUBISHI vehicles, and other vehicles like Tractor Trailers (ALL classes of trucks), turbos for helicopters, other car companies, etc.! This is a huge division and VERY well respected in the Industries it supplies!! Despite what was said above, they also manufacture 'personal aircraft' such as private jets (complete) and parts for the Aircraft Industry...I know this because my wife is in the Personal Aircraft Sales business. Mitsubishi in the past has even supplied Turbos for subaru/Fuji Heavy Industries!! Hard to believe, but VERY true!
It is too bad that MITSUBISHI does not have the proper funds in their Advertising/Public Relations Departments to put their name out there like Subaru does, but that has nothing to do with the QUALITY of a MITSUBISHI
Product, or their reputation! I own two MITSUBISHI vehicles and neither one has EVER failed me! I believe in maintainence with QUALITY parts, not 'eBay Specials', etc. You get what you put INTO a vehicle.
I swear by MITSUBISHI products and have owned their TV's, VCR's, Audio equipment, electric pencil sharpeners and other items directly bought in Japan since 1985. Over the years I have met alot of employees and administration in the company, here in The 'States and in Japan. I have nothing but the highest regard for their products and purposly go out of my way to buy them!!
Sorry for the 'jack!!!
It is too bad that MITSUBISHI does not have the proper funds in their Advertising/Public Relations Departments to put their name out there like Subaru does, but that has nothing to do with the QUALITY of a MITSUBISHI
Product, or their reputation! I own two MITSUBISHI vehicles and neither one has EVER failed me! I believe in maintainence with QUALITY parts, not 'eBay Specials', etc. You get what you put INTO a vehicle. I swear by MITSUBISHI products and have owned their TV's, VCR's, Audio equipment, electric pencil sharpeners and other items directly bought in Japan since 1985. Over the years I have met alot of employees and administration in the company, here in The 'States and in Japan. I have nothing but the highest regard for their products and purposly go out of my way to buy them!!
Sorry for the 'jack!!!
Wouldnt consider it a jack myself as that was very helpful to the question I had just asked.
I realize mitsubishi makes all sorts of other things, but you are saying their cars (which are much more complex than pencil sharpeners and TVs) are very reliable too? I would not say mitsubishi has any problems advertising, just because they dont do so to the level of like Subaru or Lexus means that their product is superior so they dont have to try to push a lower quality product in front of you by advertising the hell out of it. I respect companies that rely on word of mouth and not advertising.
As much good as ive heard about mitsubishi, I cant help but look at the eclipses of old, and how horribly unreliable those things were. We have owned Toyotas and Mazdas, and those companies have proven their worth to me, but im still somewhat hesitant as I want a car that will require nothing other than regular maitnence like oil changes and stuff, as long as I respect the car.
And trust me after owning a BMW I know all about having to put OEM-quality or better parts on your car...
I realize mitsubishi makes all sorts of other things, but you are saying their cars (which are much more complex than pencil sharpeners and TVs) are very reliable too? I would not say mitsubishi has any problems advertising, just because they dont do so to the level of like Subaru or Lexus means that their product is superior so they dont have to try to push a lower quality product in front of you by advertising the hell out of it. I respect companies that rely on word of mouth and not advertising.
As much good as ive heard about mitsubishi, I cant help but look at the eclipses of old, and how horribly unreliable those things were. We have owned Toyotas and Mazdas, and those companies have proven their worth to me, but im still somewhat hesitant as I want a car that will require nothing other than regular maitnence like oil changes and stuff, as long as I respect the car.
And trust me after owning a BMW I know all about having to put OEM-quality or better parts on your car...
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The turbo is different, the intake system is different and it appears that the exhaust is slightly different (since aftermarket evo exhausts do not appear to fit). There also the entire drivetrain (Ralliart uses Evo 9 drivetrain), the brakes and the suspension. The Ralliart is more of a hopped up Lancer than a detuned Evo. Don't forget, the transmission appears to be the weakpoint of the car. With just a reflash, TTP activated the safe mode, which drops power thus I doubt you'll be able to heavily mod the car as you say, at least at the moment. As a daily driver though, the Ralliart is a good choice. Make sure you look at the MS3, GTI and WRX if you're considering the Ralliart. It all depends on what you want really.
You should of said this ----> "The turbo is different, the intake system is different and it appears that the exhaust is slightly different (since aftermarket evo exhausts do not appear to fit). There also the entire drivetrain (Ralliart uses Evo 9 drivetrain), the brakes and the suspension. The Ralliart is more of a hopped up Lancer than a detuned Evo. Don't forget, the transmission appears to be the weakpoint of the car. With just a reflash, TTP activated the safe mode, which drops power thus I doubt you'll be able to heavily mod the car as you say, at least at the moment. As a daily driver though, the Ralliart is a good choice. Make sure you look at the MS3, GTI and WRX ,which right now is having some engine issues so you might want to wait til they are fixed, if you're considering the Ralliart. It all depends on what you want really."
Then we wouldn't be having this convo right now. The thing is u are quick to point out the RA "weakness" but afraid to mention the issue with the WRX.
So because I didn't add a disclaimer, we need ****ing 6 pages of BS in every thread? Should I have also added a disclaimer that the MS3 may have motor mount problems or torque steer issues? Should I have mentioned that the GTI is made by VW which ranks low for reliability? The weakness of the Ralliart is an actual weakness that affects all cars. It's not like some Ralliarts have the safe mode while others don't, all will and given his indicated mod plans, the current state of the Ralliart wouldn't allow for those mods. The problem with the WRX isn't a weakness but a manufacturer issue, there is a big difference.
I don't know i think i remember hearing that amby likes to state facts. If subaru has had a known engine failure than that should have been placed in. Considering the WRX was mentioned. I love all cars. Honestly is everyone looking to live in their car? Go test-drive your picks or goto the dealership to have a nice look. If you look here your only going to get tons of pages of BS only to find one answer.
Why would you not think of taking the ralliart to my list (assuming that means, to buy it?) especially as you state its fun to drive. Should reliability be a big concern of mine? What kind of problems, if any, are people having with these cars? I was hoping the ralliart was gonna be a tough reliable car like I thought the lancers were (though I did just think that). Is this not the case?
It's just a new tranny for
.If you want it as a DD with light mods, go for it.
from what we know now, anything more then that is just overkill.
subjected to change.
I don't know i think i remember hearing that amby likes to state facts. If subaru has had a known engine failure than that should have been placed in. Considering the WRX was mentioned. I love all cars. Honestly is everyone looking to live in their car? Go test-drive your picks or goto the dealership to have a nice look. If you look here your only going to get tons of pages of BS only to find one answer.
You state all known failures many a times on a Mitsubishi car. Just cause someone decides to state something about the WRX especially the known engine failures and i think back in the past had some transmission failures also you decide to up it a notch and start stating facts irrelevant about the thread.








