The Official Wide Tire Thread
Hey I learned to use 5th Marios LOL. I didn't use 5th on the first track day in the evo which is true because I was being cautious about learning the car's behavior, but I was still passing everyone. And as I said earlier on this thread, I am still very slow. I never said I was a race car driver. I just said it was retarded to put 275 all seasons on the car.
As for the Alcons I got em for a good deal and I truly didn't like the stock brakes. I did not feel confident with the feeling of the stock brakes. I tried different fluids, tried different pads, tried the shims, so it's not like I just gave up without trying different things before buying the Alcons. The car just didn't feel like it was slowing down. They turned dark red after the 3rd track day btw
Anyway, I know you don't run 275 All seasons on the street right? That's the point im making. Look back through the thread. I'm not saying wide tires are the devil, I'm saying having a wide non-performance tire doesn't serve any purpose and that I felt some folks in here were using a wide ****ty tire strictly for aesthetics.
As for the Alcons I got em for a good deal and I truly didn't like the stock brakes. I did not feel confident with the feeling of the stock brakes. I tried different fluids, tried different pads, tried the shims, so it's not like I just gave up without trying different things before buying the Alcons. The car just didn't feel like it was slowing down. They turned dark red after the 3rd track day btw
Anyway, I know you don't run 275 All seasons on the street right? That's the point im making. Look back through the thread. I'm not saying wide tires are the devil, I'm saying having a wide non-performance tire doesn't serve any purpose and that I felt some folks in here were using a wide ****ty tire strictly for aesthetics.
also, i don't see how u were having that many problems with the stock brakes 
i'm still on the stock brembos and have no problems this year after switching from motul rbf600 to Project Mu G-Four 355 brake fluid on my PF01r pads
The only reason I'd consider a smaller tire in a race situation is for weight penalties and HP capabilities. Street mod for example gets a 200 pound hit for going to a 285 and gets hit for engine displacement.
Is the car going to be faster on 275s at 2620lbs on a 2.0L or 285s at 2820 lbs with the same motor? Seems likely the 275 is going to be faster provided you can actually get the car light enough for it to matter.
How about 2820lbs on 315s on the 2.0L though? Do you have enough HP to even use the 315s??? Or a 2.4L with a larger turbo at 2940lbs and 315s??? Or do the 315s improve corning so much that HP isn't even an issue?
Personally, I don't want to spend the money on a 2.4L and everything to fit 315s so I set a goal for 2620lbs and 275s. FWIW though, even the stock turbo on 91 octane had enough power to spin the 275s in 1st and on hard corners in 2nd, that's with a Shep rear diff and RS front diff. My goal is to get them to smoke though...not just spin.
Is the car going to be faster on 275s at 2620lbs on a 2.0L or 285s at 2820 lbs with the same motor? Seems likely the 275 is going to be faster provided you can actually get the car light enough for it to matter.
How about 2820lbs on 315s on the 2.0L though? Do you have enough HP to even use the 315s??? Or a 2.4L with a larger turbo at 2940lbs and 315s??? Or do the 315s improve corning so much that HP isn't even an issue?
Personally, I don't want to spend the money on a 2.4L and everything to fit 315s so I set a goal for 2620lbs and 275s. FWIW though, even the stock turbo on 91 octane had enough power to spin the 275s in 1st and on hard corners in 2nd, that's with a Shep rear diff and RS front diff. My goal is to get them to smoke though...not just spin.
Last edited by 03whitegsr; Jun 1, 2012 at 04:45 PM.
I think weight is the most important aspect of the vehicle.
Tires second.
COG third...only because it's very difficult to change, but easy to design. Since we're modding an existing car, it gets relegated to a lesser of an important thing to change since it's so difficult to change.
I want to fit 315 Hoosiers... TERRIBLY bad. I just don't think they'll fit on an 11" wheel that well. I can fit 11's on the OEM body, I'm not confident I can fit 315's on 11's on the OEM body. THIS is my dilemma. That and the price hike going from 10.5 classics to 11" classics.
Tires second.
COG third...only because it's very difficult to change, but easy to design. Since we're modding an existing car, it gets relegated to a lesser of an important thing to change since it's so difficult to change.
I want to fit 315 Hoosiers... TERRIBLY bad. I just don't think they'll fit on an 11" wheel that well. I can fit 11's on the OEM body, I'm not confident I can fit 315's on 11's on the OEM body. THIS is my dilemma. That and the price hike going from 10.5 classics to 11" classics.
I think weight is the most important aspect of the vehicle.
Tires second.
COG third...only because it's very difficult to change, but easy to design. Since we're modding an existing car, it gets relegated to a lesser of an important thing to change since it's so difficult to change.
I want to fit 315 Hoosiers... TERRIBLY bad. I just don't think they'll fit on an 11" wheel that well. I can fit 11's on the OEM body, I'm not confident I can fit 315's on 11's on the OEM body. THIS is my dilemma. That and the price hike going from 10.5 classics to 11" classics.
Tires second.
COG third...only because it's very difficult to change, but easy to design. Since we're modding an existing car, it gets relegated to a lesser of an important thing to change since it's so difficult to change.
I want to fit 315 Hoosiers... TERRIBLY bad. I just don't think they'll fit on an 11" wheel that well. I can fit 11's on the OEM body, I'm not confident I can fit 315's on 11's on the OEM body. THIS is my dilemma. That and the price hike going from 10.5 classics to 11" classics.
R/TErnie - I just threw out 295's as a general statement. Wasn't singling out anyone.
Marios - Look at the beginning of the thread. 275 DZ101's, 275 BFG street tires, etc. I am not sure why I have such problems with the stock brakes, perhaps its because I am used to a light car and the evo just can't do it. I probably weigh 100lbs more than you also LOL. I also don't think having stock suspension on helped either. The car would really dive hard under braking and would overload the front tires.
Once I use up all my Star Specs I think I am going to play with 275/35/18 RS3's for track duty. Does anyone run that size RS3? I find RS3's are hard to get them to communicate. They seem very quiet in comparison to the Star Specs and that's my only gripe.
Marios - Look at the beginning of the thread. 275 DZ101's, 275 BFG street tires, etc. I am not sure why I have such problems with the stock brakes, perhaps its because I am used to a light car and the evo just can't do it. I probably weigh 100lbs more than you also LOL. I also don't think having stock suspension on helped either. The car would really dive hard under braking and would overload the front tires.
Once I use up all my Star Specs I think I am going to play with 275/35/18 RS3's for track duty. Does anyone run that size RS3? I find RS3's are hard to get them to communicate. They seem very quiet in comparison to the Star Specs and that's my only gripe.
Last edited by JDMevoBOOST; Jun 1, 2012 at 08:10 PM.
Marios - Look at the beginning of the thread. 275 DZ101's, 275 BFG street tires, etc. I am not sure why I have such problems with the stock brakes, perhaps its because I am used to a light car and the evo just can't do it. I probably weigh 100lbs more than you also LOL. I also don't think having stock suspension on helped either. The car would really dive hard under braking and would overload the front tires.
Once I use up all my Star Specs I think I am going to play with 275/35/18 RS3's for track duty. Does anyone run that size RS3? I find RS3's are hard to get them to communicate. They seem very quiet in comparison to the Star Specs and that's my only gripe.
Once I use up all my Star Specs I think I am going to play with 275/35/18 RS3's for track duty. Does anyone run that size RS3? I find RS3's are hard to get them to communicate. They seem very quiet in comparison to the Star Specs and that's my only gripe.
the stock suspension can get a little on the soft side at times but shouldn't be too bad with *specs.RS3's are on back order from what i've heard, but idk if the 275s are also on back order. the problem your having with the RS3's compared to the *specs is that ur going from a 200 twr to a "140" twr. because of this the RS3 has a higher literal grip then the *spec so it wont make as much noise b4 it breaks loose as the *spec. also, seeing that RS3's are like NT01's you might not be pushing them hard enough. hope that helps
Yes, 18x9.5 +35 with 275/35R18 r888's. Just test fit last night and i need to do a little work to get them to clear. The front needed a 5mm spacer to clear the strut (bilstein hd's) and its touching the fender liner front and rear and is just touching the side skirt.
The rear fits well and i should need just a slight pull and roll or trim. Pic of the rear is with a ramp under the tire and the other 3 on the ground to compress it.
Ill update later in the week when i have time to start the mods and ill post up what i did to make them fit.
The rear fits well and i should need just a slight pull and roll or trim. Pic of the rear is with a ramp under the tire and the other 3 on the ground to compress it.
Ill update later in the week when i have time to start the mods and ill post up what i did to make them fit.
Yea, the PSRS helps to push the wheel forward a little over half an inch and then I castered them back to where they barely rub on full lock on the fender liner with 285/30/18. Currently at 5.4 degrees of caster I believe but I would have to double check on my alignment sheet.
Yea, the PSRS helps to push the wheel forward a little over half an inch and then I castered them back to where they barely rub on full lock on the fender liner with 285/30/18. Currently at 5.4 degrees of caster I believe but I would have to double check on my alignment sheet.
