if i were you, no way I would take out the AEM for an Xede, just contact George to retune it and your car should run fine

 

With the Honda I built, I dropped off the civic, watched them take out the factory ecu and switch some other parts. They slapped it on the dyno, did about 30 dyno pulls, and (I didn't have the supercharger belt tight enough, so add that) it was done. The car drove and idled fine. This lasted for about 3 months until the owner (and myself stupidly going along with it, so I'm at blame also) started screwing with the fuel pressure regulator. This was on a really early version of the firmware also.

So, YES, you can pull into a tuner, and have your EMS working perfectly in a couple of hours. Not all tuners are created equal.

 

werd

 

yep, i do it every day

 

We have the EMS in our shop car w/similar mods as yours. The car runs great! Idles perfect, cold start is fine, pulls hard all the way to redline. The car is daily driven w/out any problems. Sounds like it may need additional tuning.

 

Where are you located? Would you care to share your calibration for comparison purposes?

 

I think your car can run good with the AEM the only deal I don't like about a stand alone is you lose some of the stock computers functionality. Like when I was getting a P302 when my 2nd injector was not firing correctly because of a lose wire, or your intercooler sprayer not working, or if a fan stops. Mitsu know's this car better then AEM. I would say AEM is one of the lowest of the stand-alone computers. Motec, The Tech III, Autronic are much better. AEM is low $$$ and pretty new. Again streetcar = piggie back or flash, racecar = stand-alone. Also not busting George's chops but he has VERY little workings with the AEM. People that think he is a king off tuning need to find someone good or get a ride in my evo.

 

 

Why are there such fan boys in the world? The people here saying that there is nothing wrong with the AEM EMS may be right, though, it has to be tuned right. However, those of you that are "supporting" boost solutions and their AEM tuning abilities DO NOT know the whole story. If you lived here in Atlanta like most of us in this thread do you would see why some us have issues with boost solutions and the AEM. Any engine mangement is only good as the person tuning it.

btw, chainalfr, I think evoindahouse knows what he is talking about, sorry.

 

I have AEM installed on my ride. So far, I haven't found what you describe regards losing stock computers functionality.

All stock component function like always. The only thing I can tell losing at this moment is the vehicle immobilize function.

If I try to compare AEM to stock ECU function, I think I gained more function from previous.


[QUOTE=evoindahouse]I think your car can run good with the AEM the only deal I don't like about a stand alone is you lose some of the stock computers functionality. QUOTE]

 

I maybe wrong since I'm haven't deal with George . So I can't really comment on his AEM tuning capability. That's why I like to hear the other side of the story.

Quote from Metaphysical "Not all tuners are created equal"

I won't stab/talk bad about my or any tuner even if I found error on the tuning. I will work with my tuner and get thing sort out.

EMS is very powerful. Personally, I don't think I can understand the concept in just matter of days/weeks/months. Even with proper training from manufacturer, I still don't think it's enough. A tuner should have some good start after the training session. Experiences are needed to get this device function properly.

 

 

Have you had some issues with the AEM EMS as well? I didn't know anybody else in Atlanta had one except George and I......


I do appreciate ppl trying to help and all that, but I really started this thread in this forum to get more info or discussion of the AEM EMS. It looks like it's gotten turned into a AEM bashing thread and another chance to promote the XEDE..... I'm not saying that the XEDE is not a good unit and can't do a fine job. The problem is that now this whole thread has gone off into a tangent and I'm not getting help with the AEM at all but only suggestions that I dump all my mods and go in a different direction ......... Like I said, I appreciate helpful input and all, but I'd like to hear from more AEM EMS users and what they are experiencing and what solutions they have found or they can suggest......

 

No, just making a comment based on my observations over the past weeks/months.


I think what the problem is with the AEM EMS is there are no base maps or custom maps that you can use on your car. Have you tried the AEM forums? I've heard that AEM users sometimes post maps there. Though they may be based on THEIR mods. Like I said before, a stand alone or a piggy-back is only as good as a the person that tunes it. Anyone can go to the AEM EMS class get the certificate and say they are "Factory Trained" but that doesnt me they know how to properly tune. Have you tried to contact AEM directly? Maybe they could help you.

This is not to make you switch to XEDE or say that I am a fan boy. But with the XEDE you have base maps based on particular mods and "stage" setups. Also we have the dyno day coming up, a person near by who knows how to work on them, people in the area that are willing to help you out, and great customer service from the people who make it. I dont know if you can say all of that about the AEM EMS.

Also, anyone that says that the AEM is easy to install and tune yet keeps my car for a week or more does not know what they are doing, IMO.

 

Please don't contribute to a discussion if you don't know what you're talking about. Nearly all the stand-alones have the same functionality and most have similar internals. So, getting a system should be based upon the "extra" functions and the usability. AEM excels at both of these and it's much less expensive than most of the competition.

And just for references, the AEM powers the worlds fastest import - the AEM RWD Civic, which was built and tuned inhouse on an AEM.

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