"The Alcohol kit comes with a bare minimum of testing equipment"-

That is what I wanted to know.


"Thereafter, all my tunes will be designed so that in the event that the alcohol fails - the ecu will be able to qucikly pull timing and render the car in a functional and safe operating mode. You will prob immediately feel the car pull the timing and see your boost gauge drop off."

-Will you garrantee this in writing, in case a case of detonation toasts a motor during a alky spray failure with out the extra monitoring?


"However - there is still some element of risk with such a kit and running high boost and it is not for everyone."

I fully agree. Especially a power additive as volitile as Methanol. I would assume most would run a formula of mostly alcohol with less water for the greatest effect.


"Those seeking additional saftey measures such as the knock link can add those functions either now or later"

I disagree. Without proper monitoring from the start, with the happy go pedal effect many will be using the Alky injection like habitual drugs IMHOP.

 

That is a possibility, no doubt, but... Look at the numbers!!! LOL!

 

If I told you i would have to kill you ! Jokes

Are you researching for chapter 10 of Volume II - "Making Mad Powa for Dummies!"

PS - I love your book

 

Yah. I know I was just thinking.

 

It's Quite possible, but unlikely if the additive is dilluted with water. Methanol by itself is more combustible/flammable than gasoline. F-1 cars don't have fuel cells like gas burning cars do. The alcohol is stored in thick neoprene/enhanced bag type cells for ultimate safety during a crash impact.

 

Good questions

1 - You can run it on 19 psi say on the road and set the begining boost calibration on the machine to 20 psi or higher that way it wont kick in at all until you reach 20 psi or more

2 - Our customer from yesterday reports his original one gallon is still lasting from all our dyno and road testing and two tank fulls of gas since

3 - As far as saftey - the best solution would be to mix the water and alcohol in a ratio which renders it non flamable. On the next car I dyno tune, I am going to test out a non flamable mixture to see how well it compares to the 100% mix as far as power goes. Also, I know that the mix will shortedn the life span of the pump and I will ask the kit designer what kind of estimate he can give us on the difference. Of course, if you crash into something with a gallon of methanol under your hood its going to create a problem. The most safe way to address this would be with a saftey fuel cell and steel braded hoses from the trunk - but then we sare getting into very complex mods and greatly increased costs.

 

The mixing approach is going to prob make sense for those concerned about fires and crashing. I predict the power will be equal with staight and mixed. Testing will answer that question.

My plan is to be recomending and running regular winshield washer fluid - apporx 50% methanol and 50% water on our customers cars and I think we will see very little differnce with the stock turbo at 25 psi of boost between the straight denatured alcohol and the winshield washer bottle

Here is an interesting thread on this subject which talks about an evo at the end

http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/sho...hreadid=130219

 

#'s is Cool but when you burn up your 4G63 with out a proper safeguard your will be changed to for sure. I'm all for added power, but I'm not sold on the minimal safety features to support an engine failure.

 

It really seems as though this kit isn't for you.
Pretty much as soon as you go the modded route, your taking a risk, no matter what mod your adding..

 

statix: step off what is good for me. I ask valid logical questions, and have owned, raced, and blown up enough sh#t to know what risk taking is all about. I can make my own assumptions on what is valid ,and what is bs-thanx

 

First off there is a Test button on the controler you have to test it each time u start the car at 3K rpm and make sure its working if you feel the car is stuttering that means its working to press the button and ur set to go, and as far as Al has mentioned you can set ur boost to 21 psi on daily basis and set the ALKY to go on at 22 or 25 so it never turns on but when ur out havin fun with ur boys or on the track fuc* it set that **** to start at 16 psi and let it run to 25 psi, and as far as the safety of the alky when you crash that is a concern but thats the risk i am willing to take i guess. How many people blew their engines up with EMS tuned by professionals ??? There is 0 Knock in my car right now the way we tested it with Al and the car feels just like STOCK of course when you get on it then my smile is from one EAR to the other lol

Ps just like bushur mentioned it before this system has been used on cars for YEARS AND YEARS were just getting it on the EVO and soon the EMS kit is coming out and the Vishnu i heard on the forums so everyone is going to be at it but of course BUSCHUR is the first.

 

The actual experinece over the past decade with the turbo buicks on alcohol and all the other turbo applications using it - e.g. supras and porsche etc do not show large incidents of failures with these kits. The company who makes the parts is top rated and has an excelnet track record. Of course there are risks but I feel that they are minimal and the beneifits are huge. Its up to the individual customer to make his / her own decision. Finally, when a guy with a track record like David Buschur is designing and building the kit and stands behind it I, personally have a huge comfort level in trying it on my car.

 

AMEN!!

 

BTW - Kuba - if you have time in the next week - I'd like to offer you a free dyno session so we can retest your car and try it also on the windshield washer fluid to see how the power, knock and tune vary

I am free mon - sat

 

Sounds good to me i will call you and let you know when i can come by but i am definetelly interested