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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 10:31 AM
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Hey, you have to be 18 to order one don't you (doll) I figure a few of us are twice that or more...

Back on topic, how long is it going to be now, before we have kits available that can run the windshield fluid?
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Zeus
Hey, you have to be 18 to order one don't you (doll) I figure a few of us are twice that or more...

Back on topic, how long is it going to be now, before we have kits available that can run the windshield fluid?
Zeus,

Their are already kits out their that can do this. If you want more info PM me.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 12:07 PM
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Zeus,

Their are already kits out their that can do this. If you want more info PM me.
There are kits that run windshield washer fluid right now - however the installation of them will require a lot of fabrication and crafting. The wonderful think about this kit that I am selling is that it is designed for the evo and all the parts are already installed and built into the stock evo intercooler sprayer bottle. Its a very clean install. Plus - the progrssive controller functions exceptionally well.

Finally, we have the through the mail flashes ready to go which are pre-tuned to go with this kit - so its a hard combination to beat. Its a total plug and play solution - tested and verfified and all the leg work done.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
There are kits that run windshield washer fluid right now - however the installation of them will require a lot of fabrication and crafting. The wonderful think about this kit that I am selling is that it is designed for the evo and all the parts are already installed and built into the stock evo intercooler sprayer bottle. Its a very clean install. Plus - the progrssive controller functions exceptionally well.

Finally, we have the through the mail flashes ready to go which are pre-tuned to go with this kit - so its a hard combination to beat. Its a total plug and play solution - tested and verfified and all the leg work done.
Al,

But for $499.99 plus $175.00 additional for a SS pump is Crazy IMO. The same can be done but ALOT cheaper at the moment. This is nothing NEW that you are offering here, it's been in the DSM crowd for Hella long time .

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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by VTECH8TR
Al,

But for $499.99 plus $175.00 additional for a SS pump is Crazy IMO. The same can be done but ALOT cheaper at the moment. This is nothing NEW that you are offering here, it's been in the DSM crowd for Hella long time .
True - however - I think the kit that we are offering at $499 is a very well designed unit - easy to install and very stealth and it works very well as is. You can aways go to one of the do it yourself web pages and fabricate your own alcohol injection kit from parts you can buyat Radio Shack and Home Deepot for $150 but its not going to be as well made, designed and good looking as this one. I don't think people with $30,000 evos want to put a hack job alcohol kit on their cars.

In any event - there are lots of options out there - this is just a really nice kit - well packaged and goes hand in hand with my flash tuning for a very well running and easy solution for a very good price.
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 08:13 PM
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No it does NOT work on any 05's. We are woking on a revised kit to service those models.
why would it not work on 05's? if it comes with a new intercooler res. why wouldn't it?
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 09:03 PM
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vtsnake it will not work on the 05's because they no longer have the intercooler sprayer option. So there is no place to put the tank I believe the ACD resivoir sits in it's place now. It is desinged to replace your existing intercooler sprayer tank so if you dont have one there is no place to put it. With the new kit I believe they are working on a new tank.

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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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vtsnake it will not work on the 05's because they no longer have the intercooler sprayer option. So there is no place to put the tank I believe the ACD resivoir sits in it's place now. It is desinged to replace your existing intercooler sprayer tank so if you dont have one there is no place to put it. With the new kit I believe they are working on a new tank.
I am working on a solution to this as we speak - its going to be an easy fix - I just need some time to have a few pieces made
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MYEVOVIII
vtsnake it will not work on the 05's because they no longer have the intercooler sprayer option. So there is no place to put the tank I believe the ACD resivoir sits in it's place now. It is desinged to replace your existing intercooler sprayer tank so if you dont have one there is no place to put it. With the new kit I believe they are working on a new tank.
oh. thanks! that makes sence. i didn't know they put anything in it's place. too bad for the 05's!
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 06:05 AM
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how will this kit be for roadracing? when you're on the track for 45 mins or so? you guys mention track but i gather it's more for the drag strip.
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 08:57 AM
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how will this kit be for roadracing? when you're on the track for 45 mins or so? you guys mention track but i gather it's more for the drag strip.
It would be IDEAL for road racing sitution so long as you fill up the alocohol when you fill up the gas !
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 09:04 AM
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It would be IDEAL for road racing sitution so long as you fill up the alocohol when you fill up the gas !
just tried calling ya again. call me back please.
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 10:58 AM
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There is no doubt that the alcohol makes more whp because with it you can cram more fuel to be burned at a richer a/f and making more power. If you try and run 100% gas at that rich a a/f it will loose whp as the ideal a/f ratio for boopsted application on straight gas is 12.5 / 1 a/f. With a hybrid mix of 20% alcohol the ideal a/f is much lower - prob somewhere in the 11 range allowing tyou to run into the 10's and still be making peak power.
So basically what you are saying is that by running straight alcohol you are actually creating a lower stoichiometric value allowing for a more powerful burn? correct?

If this is the case wouldn't it be more effective to run straight methanol??

As far as the washer fluid goes, let's not forget that it contains glycol which over time will cause build up in the nooks and crannies inside the intake manifold, and valvtrain. A friend ran a system like this on his wrx, and when we took the motor apart he had blue deposits all over the place.
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 11:15 AM
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So basically what you are saying is that by running straight alcohol you are actually creating a lower stoichiometric value allowing for a more powerful burn? correct?

If this is the case wouldn't it be more effective to run straight methanol??

As far as the washer fluid goes, let's not forget that it contains glycol which over time will cause build up in the nooks and crannies inside the intake manifold, and valvtrain. A friend ran a system like this on his wrx, and when we took the motor apart he had blue deposits all over the place.
Actually if you do the math - I am not sure of the exact values

BUT - staight gas yields the most BTU's

Alcohol is approx 705 or so the BTU's as gas - BUT since it can be run 2 times as rich you get 140% the power yeild as staight gas - my figures are approximate as I do not have time to consult my notes

80% gas and 20% alcohol will yield approx 110 - 115% of the BTU's of staight gas b/c you can run more fuel and still have a clean burn

Personally I prefer 100% alcohol
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 11:36 AM
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I don't remember exactly but I believe that methanol creates about the same btu's as alcohol but at a lower stoichiometric value (5.5:1 I believe where ethyl alcohol is 6.5:1). If this is true then theoretically it would yield even more power to run straight methanol, while at the same time giving you a more stable additive to work with.


That being said, are there any aluminum parts in the kit??

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