i think soem of these people who dont wont to pay attention to their little lite that indicates that ur 1/8 low means to stop the damn car and put some more alcohol in or ur dumbass is going to blow ur engine but in the same since u could look at it the smart way who wants to buy o2 sensors and 5.00 to 7.00 a gallon gas just to be safe about this their is more than one way to be safe about this and that it to watch ur lite or dont get the damn kit.
Sorry i had to cuss but people really needs to rty the stuff before they knock it and just like al said watch the light or dont buy it is what i think

and also the question of it running out so quick the intercoolerres is over a gallon i put maybe a gallon and a half in mine and trust me i can switch out any time i wont and run 20psi it isnt very hard

 

The question isn't whether you should watch the light or not.

The question is when Dynoflash asserts that 1 gallon of alcohol is enough for a full tank of pump gas to be safe on a race track with a user tuneable device, they are setting themselves up for a HUGE liability when Johnny Racer turns the wick up and runs out of the good stuff at 28psi. This kit isn't suitable for race use if simply because it does not use a surge tank. Using a small nozzle and running off injector duty cycle, I can run the reservoir dry in about 12 minutes on a less technical track. These are facts that someone buying this kit for road race use needs to know before they have a really expensive weekend.

Yes, this is an awesome kit for drag, auto-x and street use. I wouldn't use it on a race track for a half hour. When you're going up the toe of the boot at Watkins Glen and you just had to deal with slowing down from 150 to 90 for a chicane, an extreme off camber left while looking at a tire wall and not to mention trying to go up the esses in the rain without kissing the guardrail, you don't really have that much attention span left, nor are you close enough to pit in, to worry about whether the yellow, red or blue light means you're walking home.

Joe
Evo w/alky injection since early '04 and 15 track days since then
Don't mind me, I have no idea what I'm talking about.

 

Your experience on a totally different product has little or no relivance to this product that I am selling. As you have never used or even seen my kit I think you are not in a position to pontificate about how it works.

The end users will decide if they can handle glancing at a control unit every so often to monitor the lights or if that is not something which is suited to them. I would think that 99.99% of my customers are doing track days in which there is no half hour long racing going on. Those that are may wish to consider other alternatives.

My car is prob twice as fast as yours and yet I have no problems keeping any eye on my knock link, a/f and the alcohol warning light.

With 667 whp - drivng on public roads which are slippery - its certainly not easy to0 keep an eye on the gauges - but its required.

ANYONE who drives a car racing without watching his / her oil pressure, EGT and other vital functions is an idiot - alcohol or no alcohol.

Your dire warnings non withstanding - these units have been used on Buicks for nearly a decade now with no issues like the ones you are describing.

 

Why all the NEW revisions? Can the first gens be upfitted to 2 gen? If so what happens to those who have installed first gen. Do you offer an exchange program? or? What cost is invoved to upfit if you offer it?

 

Evo doer - your poor additude and negativity do not warrant a response

However - for those who may have purchsed the 1set gen kits - they may be interested in these questions

Like any hard working people who care about what they are doing - I spend almost 16 hours a day eating, sleeping and you know what Evos

When I am not answering the phone, emails and tuning I am either on here or working on my race car

My flash has constantly gotten better every week since it came out - I constantly make strides to improve things

Similarly the Alcohol kit has been refined - mostly in response to feed back I recieved from customers who have been telling me what they were looking for in the kit and how they wanted to use it. I listen to what people ask me for and luckily in this case I am working with a very dedicated manufacturer and also a great partner in designing this kit - Buschur Racing. Instead of months of delays and excuses - the kit was re-deigned and changed in a mater of a few weeks.

First the had the Evo 1 - now the Evo 9 will be comming - products change.

Just for what its worth - I am keeping the old kit on my car as I would only run alocohol and I am somehwat attached to Gen 1 - I like it

For those who have Gen 1 and want to upgrade to Gen 2 - its not a problem - just call me for details on where to send your unit and a RA #

 

I asked a valid question, no attitude, nothing negative, no attack. Go ahead bob & weave as usual when confronted with a logical question.

 

Anyone who wants to learn a little about you and your past history can just click on your screen name and take a look at your past posts

I do not appreciate your comments - and I do not appreciate you doing photo shops of me as a woman. Basically your additude sucks.

 

Ok Doc: go back to your lab and tinker with your bunson burner. I don't understand what tuning your evo has with a alcohol system you sell to the general public, for use on public roads. No problem I never liked your ATTITUDE < not additude either for that matter. Have a good day

 

stop this b/s if you have a problem PM each other. My self and other people don’t want to hear this crap. Just stop where you’re at and lets resume this thread for the reason it were started.

Evo Doer, your question can be taken as insightful or as just a negative jester. Just watch the way you ask questions.

"why all the NEW revisions"= like they trying to screw the G1 members. the rest of your questions reflect almost a panic like AL is screwing people. Calm down.

Next time just ask the question like its not intended as negative.

Like:
for those who have the 1G installed will they be able to upgrade to the G2 and be compensated. Something like that. I'm not jumping down your throat I just cant stand when this stuff happens, and with posts AL is kind of jumpy since he is constantly being ridiculed. At first you accept what he says then you discredit your self by making comments like ok doc bla bla bla. I was with you until you did that to your self. I understand where both you are coming from, lets not take this thread and burn it.

 

Road racing certainly has more challenges that running around on the street. For this topic, I tend to agree that a 1 gallon reserve will not last very long when running at high boost levels for 30 minutes. This comes from having a water/alchohol injection setup on my galant vr-4 for more than a year.

My suggestions for the situation are as follows:

Option 1 - Get some sort of standalone computer or a piggyback that has some sort of auxillary inputs. You then take your warning light and also run it to this input. Use the input as a factor in your computers boost control scenario.

Option 2 - Run 2 systems. Each one runs a lower flow, but have one system come on at say 10 psi and a second at say 18-20 psi. This is the option I will probably take, since I want to run both alchohol and water. They each perform differently and have their own benefits. I also personally don't feel like mixing them everytime for a 50/50 mix type tune. If they are separate systems, you can tune with great precision and make fine adjustments. Plus filling up is a snap and you don't have to worry about getting 60/40 or 70/30 mixes by accident.

Option 3 - Get a larger reserve tank. If your needs require it, get something that can hold 2-3 gallons of water/alchohol and get rid of the crappy intercooler spray reserve tank. In my galant I ran a tank in the trunk.

Basically Al's system is not going to fit every need out there. Anytime you have something pre-canned it will not work all the time. However Al's system does fit a majority of the owners needs. Like it or not, most Evo owners think in terms of drag racing. If his system does not suit your needs, find a system that does. There is a wealth of information out there, and a kit is easy to design if you spend some time on it. I don't think Al is going to loose any sleep though, just because he cannot cater to 5% of the people out there.

 

I was thinking about option 3. too bad you cant set up a system like the washer fluid reserve in the trunk. Have a seperate tank on the other side fore more capacity. Or turn the washer fluid one in the trunk to the main source and have the intercooler tank as the washerfluid reserve.

I think before we go assuming it will not hold that we should let AL test it and see how well it holds up on a track for long use before we try solving problems they may not exist. Plus from what i've read the cars are tuned on wot anyway meaning it will be tuned at full boost thus like AL says it should last for a full tank. If your driving daily you'll probably get more out of it then 1:1. Just my .02

 

Are you by any chance Al under a new handle? You sound quite similar in many ways, almost like a conjoined twin. Not flaming just curious since you speak for everyone take good care.

 

If you run an accumulator up very close to where you inject the water/alky you can get away with a pump in the rear of the car and a longer high pressure hose. This will avoid any delay issues you might run into. This would allow you to keep the pump fed by one or more larger tanks. It also keeps the tanks cooler as well.

You can still buy Al's system and make your own modifications for this, because you will still need the important parts from what he has to offer, like the pump, and controller.

 

nope... unless I like talking to my self.

I was one of AL's earlier customers before he became real big, and I just hate when people try and sabotage his products.

You just really need to choose your words better. Again "conjoined twins" was not necessicary, obviously you knew that when you started to say not flaming. Kinda like when you mom said, "think before you talk" meaning dont say everything you may be thinking.

 

I agree 200% with your comments

The concept of my kit is to provide a cost effective, easy to install plug and play solution for someone who wants race gas performance on pump gas and save money and hassel

Obviously a custom designed aqua mist system witha seperate tank and custom programming will be superior if you plan to road race your car - BUT - the expense will negate the savings on the fuel