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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 10:43 AM
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I would like to hear all the details surrounding this, but I have noticed that zerofrost has not posted agian since
starting this thread.

Hollar back zero... please fill in the blanks.
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by justchil
aww and my post gets deleted because i called you a crybaby

yet others can call Al and others filthy liars all day long.. i dont get it.

one is fact the other is a matter of opinion. Thats why we can continue to call Al what he is. now whos the one crying? Stop riding Al's ***** and untill u have experience with him quit mouthing off cuz no one wants to hear it from someone whos never dealt with him. All ur opinions are just that, opinions based on nothing.
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 01:09 PM
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If you read some of my posts bonehead I stated I gained ~50 HP with minimal mods. What part of that don't you understand?

Haters are all the same. Diarreah of the mouth and constipation of the brain.

Originally Posted by XRS-Lift
go dyno ur car and come back and say that.
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 01:25 PM
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If you read some of my posts bonehead I stated I gained ~50 HP with minimal mods. What part of that don't you understand?

Haters are all the same. Diarreah of the mouth and constipation of the brain.
bonehead? I went through this whole thread and didnt find anything about your power or u dynoing your car. So stop being a ***** and post a link to where you said that.
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 01:37 PM
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but i read in the other dynobash...or i mean dynoflash thread that evo8power got banned??? why?

Cant we all just get along. I am really curious though how the stealership found out?
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 01:43 PM
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Last edited by justchil; Sep 8, 2004 at 01:54 PM. Reason: realized i'm wasting my time
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 01:59 PM
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I would be happy to give you the link but the thread was pulled yesterday, as I'm sure you allready knew. It was posted in the big thread that was going around yesterday. If you did not see it, well.. I guess it's too late. Now I posted it again. Wait, one more time for the slow people.. 50 HP with minimal mods.

Besides, what do I have to prove to some immature internet tough guy like you? Get out from behind that keyboard and all you're Al hatred, and get a life.

As for being a *****.. Look in the mirror. Man, you couldn't buy a clue; and your posts do nothing but prove that point. Over, and over, and over again. You guys are like a broken record.. Just hoping that if you say it more times someone new will believe it.

Originally Posted by XRS-Lift
bonehead? I went through this whole thread and didnt find anything about your power or u dynoing your car. So stop being a ***** and post a link to where you said that.
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 02:00 PM
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And so are yours! I don't think ANY vendor deserves some of the things you and others have said. If you would take the problem to them like a man instead of heading to the forums you would probably get results.

Are you just blatantly retarded or do you just get a kick out of it. What i posted was FIRST HAND FACTS not some opinion made by a 3rd party who has NO experience with issue {YOU}.

Also. Maybe if you pulled your head out of ur back side for a minute you would re-read the original posts and find the part where i mentioned that i spoke to Al IN PERSON, ON THE PHONE, THROUGH EMAIL AND INSTANT MESSAGES in a polite and non offensive manner. I tried everything i could to get this resolved peacfully. I even accepted the fact that he wont refund me as promised and took the other route that he suggested and used his "re-sale" option. Then when i found a few buyers they all came back to me saying "Al told me some weird things and i changed my mind" Then later one of the buyers said "I'm not paying an extra $50 are you crazy?" So then i call Al to see what the hell is going on. I ask him about it and he says he just made a new policy that he will charge $50 to my buyers {just so he can milk them even more} I then asked why. he said and i QUOTE "I'm charging for ELECTRICTY COSTS, LAYBOR COSTS and shipping." So i think to myself. Ok first of all he said that there will be NO extra cost to the person who buys the re-sold flash. Now he wants to charge $50. Now lets think about this. NEXT DAY PRIORITY SHIPPING BY 12:30 is $17.35 So hes charging the rest for ELECTRICITY???? LAYBOR? it takes 30 seconds to do the flash. And what the hell kind of power does he need to run his notebook? if you can't see what hes doing here then you deserve to be screwed by him. i then told him that thats not right and he told me thats thats the way it is. Thats when I told him hes causing more problems for himself than he knows and went to the boards to inform everyone. i didnt come here to get a refund. That part was clean when i hung up the phone. So go ahead and make up another excuse in your fairytail land and act like Al did the right thing im tired of dealing with you unrealistic brown noses.
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 02:02 PM
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Wait.. Found it..

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...57#post1197957
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 07:42 PM
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Question

You reflashed your car...MAN UP!

YOu make the decision, you live with it...and to expect Mitsu to foot your bill for broken parts, after looking at your sig mod list. gimme a break!

You noob tooners kill me, you modify your car, you lose the warrenty.....

That is like lying to your boss and then expecting to keep your job




Originally Posted by ZeroFrost
Yo al, i took my car to mitsu and they found the flash on it and voided my warranty there bud, now what? I was there for hours talking to the guys, but no cigar. Warranty gone, and on top of that my car is getting slower and slower every day. I think i should be given a refund. Not saying your tune was bad, it was good on day 1, but now on a steady way down to no power. Please respond so we can handle this matter or leave me a PM here. Thanks


-Marko-
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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 07:59 PM
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You're kidding, right?

About the "loss" in HP on the dyno after the flash. Did you dyno your car completely stock, or are you ASSuming that you have 271 HP to the wheels. Every post I read about someone complains about losing HP on the dyno. Did you factor in drivetrain loss from CRANK HP compared to AWHP????? I doubt it. So many noobs are posting about how their car is only 228HP or 280HP. You figure you lose about 20-25% of your CRANK HP when you consider drivetrain loss. Now, if Al guarantees a gain of 20 HP, then consider what your cars were doing stock. I kept mine stock, and I'd love to have 300AWHP. My 0.02.........

Are we ever going to hear how the original thread starter had his flash detected? My guess is no.
Old Sep 9, 2004 | 08:59 AM
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well i have not posted since because i have been busy with college. My future is more important than some car. 2nd of all, im not bashing al. Im just very dissapointed in him because his product is supposed to be undetectable. As far as someone telling me to go to a mod friendly dealer, it wont work. My cars VIN number is listed as VOID to all mitsu dealers. How do i know? I went to another dealer and found out. I spent X ammount of dollars on a flash, and it was great on day 1. But now it seems the car is just loosing its performace. I keep up with my oil changes, and i have a ACT clutch that is still good. Feels like the car is going back to where it was b4 the flash, loud motor and knock. And for those of you who are wondering how my flash was detected, i went in to the dealer to have that stupid call back thing i got in the mail for a sticker of some sort, that and a tire rotation. Next thing i see is the service manager coming up to me asking me to come into the general managers office where all 3 of us had a talk about the car. It turns out that some district warranty guy was there. He is the guy who evaluates whether the car should have warranty work done or not. Now i guess he must of taken a look at the car. Service manager quickly asks me what other mods other than the ones visible are on the car. I said just what you see. So he says, well apparently your ECU has been tampered with and has changed the way your car operates internally. I gave him a confused face like i didnt know what he was talking about. So then the service manager turn to me and tell me straight up, sorry but modifications of this nature are not allowed and go against our warranty policy. And i say ok, and now what? he tells me sorry, but the warrany on my car has been revoked. So now im screwed.
Old Sep 9, 2004 | 09:06 AM
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Whoah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! go in for a recall, the district manager checks your mods?????? WTF????????

Yet another instance of and their evil ways. Write all the popular magazines dude, that's not how they are supposed to operate.
Old Sep 9, 2004 | 09:06 AM
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Now just incase my eye's are decieving me, and maybe im paranoid about my power loss. I am thinking of taking my car to TurboTrix to have a run on the Dyno there. If my car comes off that thing with more than a 5-10 WHP loss, then i will be very dissapointed.
Old Sep 9, 2004 | 09:15 AM
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You got hosed! I would have asked them to prove the ECU has been modded. Why do people let the service guys push you around???



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