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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 11:33 AM
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Wouldn't it be so much easier to just be able to enter a target PSI (if you have the JDM MAP) and have the WGDC and BDEL/Correction dynamically adjust to achieve the desired PSI?

Is this even possible, or am I just dreaming?
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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wow...what octane is that?
Shell 93. I'm a little dumbfounded too ... AFR is around 11.8:1 at peak and 11.2:1 at 7200.

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TB, I can see in your chart that the WGDC is getting pumped up during spool. This is what's causing the boost overshoot. I think you might be better off using a BWGDC curve that gets you as close as possible to your desired load without any WGDC corrections. Then zero out the -20 correction and let the WGDC correction routine fine tune.
I know that's causing the spike. As I mentioned earlier, I had an issue with dropping below -20 desired and the TBEC table wouldn't catch back up. Now that I've got it working, I can zero out the -20 cell and fix the issue ... but, on the other hand ... it's not knocking, so there really isn't a problem. It's just not ideal. I'll work on it this weekend I guess.

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At high rpm, it appears that the boost control system is maxed out and cannot reach your desired load. It might be better to pull the BDEL down there to match the max load that you can acheive. This will again prevent the WGDC from getting unnecessarily pumped up.
Well, that is pretty obvious. But, what is the problem with my situation? I know it's not reaching desired load, but it's not a big deal. Is there something negative that will happen if the TBEC corrects up too high?

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One thing that may work for better automated fine tuning of the WGDC might be to using a "rising rate" on the TBEC table. Something like:

-20 0
-10 10
-8 6
-6 3
-4 2
-3 1
-2 0.5
-1 0
0 0
1 0
2 -0.5
3 -1
4 -2
6 -3
8 -6
10 -10
20 -20

This way, the corections are very small when the error is small, but then become rapidly much larger as the error becomes larger.
You know ... if I were smart I would have realized that I could re-scale the error values. I've wanted more fine control and I don't like the scale .. I just didn't think to change it! That said, I've tried larger correction values on the stock scaling and I saw over correction and a wavy boost curve.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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... I know that's causing the spike. ....
Just trying to help.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Pd1
Wouldn't it be so much easier to just be able to enter a target PSI (if you have the JDM MAP) and have the WGDC and BDEL/Correction dynamically adjust to achieve the desired PSI?

Is this even possible, or am I just dreaming?
Should be possible. I'm trying to work it out.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 02:01 PM
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Just trying to help.
I know, and I appreciate it. Didn't mean to come off harsh.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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I'm fairly experienced with ECUFlash/EvoScan. I've got a JDM MAP (thanks mrfred) sensor and have been tuning for a while, but for the life of me I can't get Load Error to log in EvoScan.

I've made the changes listed to my ROM in ECUFlash, flashed the modified ROM to my ECU, and changed the EvoScan data file. But when I try to log "Load Error" in Evoscan I get "Illegal expression in Data.xml".

Here is a copy/paste from my data.xml. What am I missing?

<DataListItem DataLog="Y" Color="" Display="Load Error" LogReference="LoadError" RequestID="8A" Eval="5/8*(x/4-32)" Unit="%" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="-100" GaugeMax="100" ChartMin="-100" ChartMax="100" ScalingFactor="1" Notes=""/>

The eval expression looks right to me, and obviously others have gotten this to work. This is EvoScan v0.99. Maybe you guys can see something I don't. Thanks!
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Pd1
Wouldn't it be so much easier to just be able to enter a target PSI (if you have the JDM MAP) and have the WGDC and BDEL/Correction dynamically adjust to achieve the desired PSI?

Is this even possible, or am I just dreaming?
Yeah, this would be great. it would be awesome to have even a 2D map with rpm values and then enter the desired boost level in the other column. I'm sure that this can't happen but it would make boost control so much easier
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
Both. I hope the next version of ECUFlash stops using the term "MWGDC". BWGDC is more appropriate.
So we dont have to change all the maps anymore??
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RedV
I'm fairly experienced with ECUFlash/EvoScan. I've got a JDM MAP (thanks mrfred) sensor and have been tuning for a while, but for the life of me I can't get Load Error to log in EvoScan.

I've made the changes listed to my ROM in ECUFlash, flashed the modified ROM to my ECU, and changed the EvoScan data file. But when I try to log "Load Error" in Evoscan I get "Illegal expression in Data.xml".

Here is a copy/paste from my data.xml. What am I missing?

<DataListItem DataLog="Y" Color="" Display="Load Error" LogReference="LoadError" RequestID="8A" Eval="5/8*(x/4-32)" Unit="%" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="-100" GaugeMax="100" ChartMin="-100" ChartMax="100" ScalingFactor="1" Notes=""/>

The eval expression looks right to me, and obviously others have gotten this to work. This is EvoScan v0.99. Maybe you guys can see something I don't. Thanks!
Look at the new DataListItem code Mrfred posted in the first post. I had the same issue with .99. The new code works.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 11:45 PM
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I am running the boost settings that you see in the attachment. The TBEC table is stock. The car boosts to 22 psi and holds boost to 19 psi by redline. What should I expect if I change the WGDC Correction #1 from the current 10 to 3 or 4? Must I change the TBEC table as well? Or can I keep it stock? Will my boost go higher or lower?
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 11:48 PM
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Another thing I noticed is that there is no mention in the updated instructions of changing the address in MUT8B. So should we change the address to 6EE3 or not?
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 12:56 AM
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Another thing I noticed is that there is no mention in the updated instructions of changing the address in MUT8B. So should we change the address to 6EE3 or not?
For USDM Evo IX, 0x6EE3 will get inserted into MUT 8A. If you changed MUT 8B because of my first instructions, then put it back to stock. The stock value is 0x6B41.
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
For USDM Evo IX, 0x6EE3 will get inserted into MUT 8A. If you changed MUT 8B because of my first instructions, then put it back to stock. The stock value is 0x6B41.
I believe I changed mine back to stock, but I can't be certain. Would you mind posting the XML for that address?
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by TouringBubble
I believe I changed mine back to stock, but I can't be certain. Would you mind posting the XML for that address?
here it is

<table name="MUT8B" category="MUT" address="3F0B2" type="1D" level="1" scaling="Hex16"/>
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 07:44 AM
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Could someone please answer my question in post 100?
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