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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by honki24
def. scary considering the fact that I don't want an AF gauge.

With the alarm output on a Zeitronix WB, you don't "need" a gauge (it doesn't come with one with their basic kit anyways). Just set the alram trigger points and install the buzzer/LED indicator to alert you if things go REALLY wrong...like in Bryans case.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 09:54 AM
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I changed my timing map today to look similiar to mrfred's map and definitly noticed a difference on my drive to work. Much easier to stay out of boost while cruising. I did notice that I have a different exhaust tone during acceleration, found it interesting. Almost sounds meaner/deeper.

Next task is to wire the LC1 into my ECU to make logging easier.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 10:21 AM
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Yeah, it definitely helps noticably. I'm tinkering with MIVEC now.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 10:24 AM
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yea adding ignition changes exhaust tone...i also noticed this lol
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 02:48 PM
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I just got 385gal to a tank and equating this figure PROPERLY, came out to 29mpg, 95% hwy use .

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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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Thats awesome, with the standard 14.7:1 closed loop I got between 300-320 mile before my light comes on. I fill up every week and checked my gallons to mileage and I averaged about 23MPG on the standard 14.7:1 setup. I gotta test it with a leaner AFR setup (been lazy,lol).
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 03:16 PM
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Funny thing is, I haven't even touched my fuel maps, (they are OEM) and lean spool is ENABLED. No closed-loop changes or anything fancy like that; driving at -30 vacuum @65-70mph the entire way -when on the expressway and zero boost when on the street of course (man that was HARD). I've backed this up on my last three fills all avg around ~27mpg with the same driving habits.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 03:39 PM
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Yah, I haven't touched my fuel maps yet either, just used the zeitronix NB simulator set at 15.5.

On the last tank (a camping trip) I managed 28.8 mpg. That was with a ton of elevation changes (from 4,000 to over 10,000 ft), average cruising speed of 80mph, and the a/c on. Oh, and one jaunt from 75 to 145 in 5th... on a closed course of course

I've yet to add additional timing for cruise, I think that will be the next step (along with a clean air filter... lol). In town as of late I've been getting 22-24mpg, but that is with me driving "normally", i.e. fast starts, etc. We'll see what I can get in-town if I can stay out of boost for a bit.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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I'm amazed at the mileage you guys are getting. I only get 20.0 mpg cruising around town with my tune and 14.7 afr for cruise. That's staying entirely off boost. What tire pressure are you guys running?

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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
I'm amazed at the mileage you guys are getting. I only 20.0 mpg cruising around town with my tune and 14.7 afr for cruise. That's staying entirely off boost. What tire pressure are you guys running?
I think that's normal for around town.

I notice a HUGE difference with mixed town/freeway compared to 90% freeway. I'm talking like 6-7mpg difference.

The speed also makes a huge difference. 65-70mph gives me great mileage. As soon as I go over 75 my mileage drops a ton.

My last tank, on 100 octane, tuned for 15.2-15.5 at cruise and higher cruise timing, I made 19mpg with mixed town/freeway driving, this included a ton of 29psi WOT romps as well.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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36/38psi HOT.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 05:07 PM
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35psi front and rears, cold.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 05:28 PM
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I am getting 12.7L per 100km's which I think works out to about 18mpg.

that is mainly freeway + a few WOT pulls..
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
I'm amazed at the mileage you guys are getting. I only get 20.0 mpg cruising around town with my tune and 14.7 afr for cruise. That's staying entirely off boost. What tire pressure are you guys running?
I run 37psi cold, which ends up about 40psi when the tires have good heat in them.

Do you do stuff like leave the car in gear coming to a stop so the injectors shut off? That helps a bit.

I've never had a whole tank where I stayed out of boost in town, but like I said I still net 22-24mpg, so it's weird if you're only getting 20 with no boost at all.

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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by inco9nito99
I just got 365gal to a tank and equating this figure PROPERLY, came out to 28.6mpg, 95% hwy use .
How did you calculate your mpg? What I do is fill up the tank and top it off by 0.5 gallon after the first cut-off of the nozzle. Then I drive until the light comes on and re-fill from the SAME gas station and the SAME pump using the same proceedure.

So far I have averaged 26 mpg in two tanks with 70/30 freeway/street driving. I drive the speed limit or slightly less. Here in SoCal the speedlimit is 65 mph. I do not go into boost and keep the car in max amount of vaccum on the gauge.
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