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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 08:08 AM
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I prefer EcuTeK stability, but I want the ability to flash my own car without traveling to the shop.
A lethal combination I wish it were available.
Old Mar 5, 2009 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Noize
Are a lot of people still bricking ECUs?

I'd go EcuTeK again, it was stable and I loved it.

I'm not worried about logging, I have my old/existing maps to work with.

I am worried about:

1) Stability
2) All maps I need being there
3) Interface being as good or same as EcuTeK this time around.

I prefer EcuTeK stability, but I want the ability to flash my own car without traveling to the shop.
I've flashed over 30 individual Evo 10's and a couple 09 Ralliarts with no bricking. I've reflashed probably over 500x so far with no bricking.

1. EcuFlash is now public and fully stable.
2. EcuFlash currently has more complete maps then other offerings (history repeats itself again), espically in OEM boost control which I know you favor.
3. Not sure what Interface elements you are looking for, can you elaborate?
Old Mar 5, 2009 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
If you mean a standalone EBC setting, then the reactive and passive boost values have no effect except the BDEL. In order to prevent a high boost CEL, the BDEL needs to be adjusted to track the load achieved using the EBC.
I tried using 159 for high load/rpm region and still hits the CEL error 1241 on part throttle. WOT is fine though.
Old Mar 5, 2009 | 02:33 PM
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I tried using 159 for high load/rpm region and still hits the CEL error 1241 on part throttle. WOT is fine though.
So what do you have in the part throttle TPS regions of the BDEL map? 159 as well?
Old Mar 5, 2009 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by GST Motorsports
I've flashed over 30 individual Evo 10's and a couple 09 Ralliarts with no bricking. I've reflashed probably over 500x so far with no bricking.

1. EcuFlash is now public and fully stable.
2. EcuFlash currently has more complete maps then other offerings (history repeats itself again), espically in OEM boost control which I know you favor.
3. Not sure what Interface elements you are looking for, can you elaborate?
Sure. EcuTeK has a bunch of provisions and built in fixes for several different codes. P1235 comes to mind. Is EcuTeK running with full ECU boost control and no partial throttle codes or AYC codes? I just want something that will work, and the only software I've used on an Evo X is EcuTeK.
Old Mar 5, 2009 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Noize
Sure. EcuTeK has a bunch of provisions and built in fixes for several different codes. P1235 comes to mind. Is EcuTeK running with full ECU boost control and no partial throttle codes or AYC codes? I just want something that will work, and the only software I've used on an Evo X is EcuTeK.
AFAIK, EcuFlash has more tables for more precise ECU boost control than other offerings out currently. As far as partial throttle codes, etc, That is a tuning thing, not a software thing.

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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 04:27 PM
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It was probably a lack of table weakness before. I've been out of the game with the X since July. I guess I need to just get on the dyno and start messing with the boost and see if what we've already done works here too.

Thanks GST, I'm pretty sure this is they way I want to go with this car, I'll get that cable ordered ASAP. Hopefully they are in stock.
Old Mar 5, 2009 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Noize
It was probably a lack of table weakness before. I've been out of the game with the X since July. I guess I need to just get on the dyno and start messing with the boost and see if what we've already done works here too.

Thanks GST, I'm pretty sure this is they way I want to go with this car, I'll get that cable ordered ASAP. Hopefully they are in stock.
Tuning the boost via ECU on the Evo 10 is nothing different then doing it on the 8/9 correctly. There is just a higher degree of resolution (3D WGDC and BDEL table) and a secondary solenoid which is passive (does not have Error Correction applied to it)
Old Mar 5, 2009 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Noize
Got another X. I logged onto the Tactrix store and saw they had an ECU recovery service. That's spooky. Are a lot of people still bricking ECUs?

I'd go EcuTeK again, it was stable and I loved it.

I'm not worried about logging, I have my old/existing maps to work with.

I am worried about:

1) Stability
2) All maps I need being there
3) Interface being as good or same as EcuTeK this time around.

I prefer EcuTeK stability, but I want the ability to flash my own car without traveling to the shop.
The release version of ECUFlash for the X is inherently stable, but it can render an ECU unresponsive if something abnormal happens during a flash such as computer losing power or the cable accidentally getting disconnected. And bricking is not an accurate term now because an unresponsive ECU is fully recoverable.

I did the boost control tables for ECUFlash for the X (by going through the ROM code), and I can definitely say that all the Evo X boost control parameters built into the ROM code are available in ECUFlash. The boost control code in the Evo X ROM is very similar to the JDM Evo 9 boost control code. The only change is the addition of the addition of the 3D boost vs TPS and RPM tables.

There's definitely more tables to be added to ECUFlash and some things need to be cleaned up, but we have a pretty good starting set now. There'd be many more tables already if I actually owned an Evo X. :-) I haven't seen the tables available in any of the other reflashing programs, but I've been told by several tuners (e.g. Bryan) that ECUFlash is on-par with the others.
Old Mar 5, 2009 | 08:35 PM
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Thanks guys, I appreciate your info and help a lot. Time to order.
Old Mar 5, 2009 | 11:49 PM
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Hrm...just flipping through the processor manual...apparantly the rewrite durability is rated at 100 times? Really?

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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by GST Motorsports
So what do you have in the part throttle TPS regions of the BDEL map? 159 as well?
Basically the rest are stock * 1.2 or so... Will it be ok for me to populate 159 into all the cells?
Old Mar 6, 2009 | 06:43 AM
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Do any of you have Hamish's actual e-mail address? I sent him our stock ECU about a month ago to have him work out a logger. Haven't heard from him and he said he'd have it 2 weeks. Now that he's been booted from here I can't reach him............getting a little pissed off at this point.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks
Old Mar 6, 2009 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
Do any of you have Hamish's actual e-mail address? I sent him our stock ECU about a month ago to have him work out a logger. Haven't heard from him and he said he'd have it 2 weeks. Now that he's been booted from here I can't reach him............getting a little pissed off at this point.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks
Did you try starting a support ticket on the EvoScan website? Its not exactly what you wanted, but I'm sure you'll get through to him.
Old Mar 6, 2009 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
The release version of ECUFlash for the X is inherently stable, but it can render an ECU unresponsive if something abnormal happens during a flash such as computer losing power or the cable accidentally getting disconnected. And bricking is not an accurate term now because an unresponsive ECU is fully recoverable.

I did the boost control tables for ECUFlash for the X (by going through the ROM code), and I can definitely say that all the Evo X boost control parameters built into the ROM code are available in ECUFlash. The boost control code in the Evo X ROM is very similar to the JDM Evo 9 boost control code. The only change is the addition of the addition of the 3D boost vs TPS and RPM tables.

There's definitely more tables to be added to ECUFlash and some things need to be cleaned up, but we have a pretty good starting set now. There'd be many more tables already if I actually owned an Evo X. :-) I haven't seen the tables available in any of the other reflashing programs, but I've been told by several tuners (e.g. Bryan) that ECUFlash is on-par with the others.

There are more tables available .. I didn't release them because I can't verify them .. there's 2 more boost table backups and a host of other safety tiedowns (ie overboost protection and torque calculations) ..

The MUT table is wrong .. I am verifying another set now .. once that is done I can get knock logging and full up ECU boost

I'm going to need your help to start reprogramming the software codes ..

Thanks mate ..



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