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Old Nov 15, 2009 | 12:23 AM
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just a quick q on scaling the maf on the big maps. do you scale the "airflow/hz raw scaling" table in fuel tab, under immobilizer options or the "maf scaling (maf adder already added)" in the global fuel settings tab? as one is units and the other is g/s.

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Old Nov 15, 2009 | 05:38 AM
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Nm i didnt copy the 100000 over works now

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Old Nov 15, 2009 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by project_skyline
I give up asking questions in here anymore. So far I've made 4 inquiries and somehow nothing gets answered yet everyone else get a response.
to be fair: there are 100s of us trying to learn all this and only a handful of people that know enough to help us out. not only that but there are an unlimited amount of variations between cars and tuning needs.. so it's hard to answer specific questions.
i really feel that these threads and mods should be for tuners only. for people like me (new to EVOs), there is just too much to learn and too much knowledge to be known BEFORE attempting any of this.

only the time i've spent tuning other cars has helped me even come CLOSE to understanding all this stuff. as mentioned before, i'm sticking with ver 5.x because i FINALLY have a grasp of how it works. ver 7.x has WAY more stuff than i know what to deal with. if i ever go to a formal tuner and they want to use ver 7, then fine. i'll let them make the adjustments and i won't TOUCH them. too many "well, if you change this, then you have to change these too", etc. i get lost.

but for now, ver 5 does all i need.
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Old Nov 15, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by project_skyline
I went to get ready to load up Live mapping MAF based ROM into my car yesterday but noticed the NLS rpm drop box wasn't accessible. Had anyone picked up on this and should i just download it again?
Same here whats with this ?? address is 3e252 for scaling in def it says (none)
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Old Nov 15, 2009 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Biggy VIII
Does TBEC work when TPS WGDC Correction multiplier is applied?

anybody?
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Old Nov 15, 2009 | 04:26 PM
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Someone shoud make a video how to..
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Old Nov 15, 2009 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Biggy VIII
thanks.

do you have any issues like oscilating boost under 50% throttle conditions? is your TBEC on? what do you have in "Max Upward WGDC Corr" table?
biggy, whats your (100 % wgdc under ..... load)


although that doesnt effect my perception of power, the log shows a big zig zag from high to low in wddc.

I just lowered that input from 150 because I believe it is overriding the percent throttle map.
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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Boosted GP
Hi


my timing values in the upper load sites (110+) are a good 3-5 degrees morethan the ign map!!!! and it doesn't seem to be constant... i need to search, will post back if i find nothing.

Mike
I am using the "Option 4 96530706 (v7 + Mods)" on my EDM Evo8, which originally had 96530006 on.

I made use of the Big Map Translator spreadsheet to convert my timing values over to the big maps, and they look spot on compared to my small maps.

But I am seeing the same problem as Boosted GP when logging timing during a WOT 3rd gear pull.
Up to load 110 or so, the timing values are pretty much spot on, thereafter the logged values are reading 3-5 degree's higher that what is in the ignition map. This continues right up till red line.

Timing fuelling and boost are spot on to what I use to log with the small maps, it is only the timing which seems to be off.

When I get my laptop back, I can post up the map tracer/logs and ROM file if needed.

Does anyone else have the same issue and is there a fix for it?

Thx.
Does anyone have a fix for this?

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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 05:44 AM
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does this happen only during accelerations? if so perhaps the math used by the processor is rigged to the original map. Since we are seeing view points the ecu doesn't recognize there may be inconsistencies. Then once the dramatic acceleration is done the ecu can use the new timing from the new larger map.
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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by nothere
biggy, whats your (100 % wgdc under ..... load)


although that doesnt effect my perception of power, the log shows a big zig zag from high to low in wddc.

I just lowered that input from 150 because I believe it is overriding the percent throttle map.
What nothere said.^^

It is very possible that you are just bouncing around between min load for boost control, 100% wgdc under this load, and the 0% or whatever is in your maps. When I had the 100% wgdc under this load option set too high I could get a bit of oscillation.

Log wgdc and see if it is going 0-100-0% or something similar as you oscillate
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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 03:53 PM
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I am going to try 9653 Opt 4 on my 04 Evo 8. I notice that the gear dependant boost is set up for 6 gear Evos. My car is 5 speed. What do I do with the 6th gear. Ignore it? Will it work oin 5 sp Evos. I believe I also saw a 0 gear on the tables.
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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 04:06 PM
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zero them out or fill them in, as long as you have the correct numbers in 1 through 5.

the correct numbers are in here someplace,,, I had to search for them last week. try a search in the ecuflash forum or even in this thread.
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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by racer135
I am going to try 9653 Opt 4 on my 04 Evo 8. I notice that the gear dependant boost is set up for 6 gear Evos. My car is 5 speed. What do I do with the 6th gear. Ignore it? Will it work oin 5 sp Evos. I believe I also saw a 0 gear on the tables.
Hey just to let you know, I was having a problem when using gear dependent boost control and launch control maps at the same time. When launching, there was no boost control in 1st gear at all. I was able to rectify the issues by making the following changes:

1) Made the "0" columns in both the BDEL, WGDC equal the "1" column
2) Made 0 and 1 rows in the "RPM/Speed to Gear" tables equal the same values

I'm not sure which table did it, but it works nicely now.

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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by nothere
biggy, whats your (100 % wgdc under ..... load)


although that doesnt effect my perception of power, the log shows a big zig zag from high to low in wddc.

I just lowered that input from 150 because I believe it is overriding the percent throttle map.
WGDC=100% under this Load is 200... that is ~1bar of boost, right? I am not trying to make my boost any lower than 1bar under part-throttle.

The big zig zag wont deliver smooth torque curve. More than that it makes the car feel jerky under constant part-throttle, isn't it? Actually that is what I have and I consider it to be a problem.

Originally Posted by fostytou
What nothere said.^^

It is very possible that you are just bouncing around between min load for boost control, 100% wgdc under this load, and the 0% or whatever is in your maps. When I had the 100% wgdc under this load option set too high I could get a bit of oscillation.

Log wgdc and see if it is going 0-100-0% or something similar as you oscillate
Ok I will log wgdc with my current WGDC=100% under this Load setting, and than lower it to say 100.

By the way, what does min load for boost control table define? And what is WGDC=100% under this Load scaling, what does 200% mean is it equal to 200 load?

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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by racer135
I am going to try 9653 Opt 4 on my 04 Evo 8. I notice that the gear dependant boost is set up for 6 gear Evos. My car is 5 speed. What do I do with the 6th gear. Ignore it? Will it work oin 5 sp Evos. I believe I also saw a 0 gear on the tables.
Originally Posted by nothere
zero them out or fill them in, as long as you have the correct numbers in 1 through 5.

the correct numbers are in here someplace,,, I had to search for them last week. try a search in the ecuflash forum or even in this thread.
Answered 1000x. Set the ratio for 6 to 0 and/or set it to the same value as row 5

Originally Posted by D-VO
Hey just to let you know, I was having a problem when using gear dependent boost control and launch control maps at the same time. When launching, there was no boost control in 1st gear at all. I was able to rectify the issues by making the following changes:

1) Made the "0" columns in both the BDEL, WGDC equal the "1" column
2) Made 0 and 1 rows in the "RPM/Speed to Gear" tables equal the same values

I'm not sure which table did it, but it works nicely now.
Both of these "should" do the same thing, but you may be causing some weird funkiness by having the ratio the same for both gears. It might be trying to "snap" to both. Just make the 0 column the same as 1. I personally prefer to have 0 similar to 1 but have 100% wgdc around my launch RPM.

Originally Posted by Biggy VIII
WGDC=100% under this Load is 200... that is ~1bar of boost, right? I am not trying to make my boost any lower than 1bar under part-throttle.

The big zig zag wont deliver smooth torque curve. More than that it makes the car feel jerky under constant part-throttle, isn't it? Actually that is what I have and I consider it to be a problem.



Ok I will log wgdc with my current WGDC=100% under this Load setting, and than lower it to say 100.

By the way, what does min load for boost control table define? And what is WGDC=100% under this Load scaling, what does 200% mean is it equal to 200 load?
200 may very well be too high.

Your BCS will not do anything up to that load point, then it will activate (and if set over this load go to 100% else go to defined boost control). Load is deliniated with a % symbol everywhere in the program, so yes... 200% means 200 load.
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