Trying to understand timing map
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27psi is ok..... some guys push it to 31psi, so i think 27psi should be alright. that formula stuff you posted is if you dont have an actual wideband and are using the estimated AFR from the evoscan..... ignore it.......
Go into Graph and Map tracer drop down menu > analyze csv load, fuel , timing
load your ROM once you get in there and then it will map trace the rom cells and adjust accordingly.
I will to look myself how much incriment changes a/f i will post back with findings so you now how much to alter the value. but i wouldnt go more then .3-.5 at a time per testing ..
Go into Graph and Map tracer drop down menu > analyze csv load, fuel , timing
load your ROM once you get in there and then it will map trace the rom cells and adjust accordingly.
I will to look myself how much incriment changes a/f i will post back with findings so you now how much to alter the value. but i wouldnt go more then .3-.5 at a time per testing ..
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btw read this ethan. the fuel trim part doesn't pertain to you tho, since you're on stock injectors. https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ec...-tune-evo.html
i dont know about doing it that way, i dont recommend it. just do it the standard way for now, unless someone else chimes in here and says otherwise.
ok i see it. its a calculation on how to get the number you want for the a/f. it has nothing to do with evoscan. he wants you to create a excel that auto does the calculation. after you calculate it then you edit the cell on the map trace..
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Ok so this is what I did. I highlighted the cells that i basically hit (shown on the map tracer) and then lowered (richened) them by 0.2 and then the surrounding cells i decremented by 0.1 to try and smooth things a little bit. Did I go about this right? You can see what was changed in the fuel table by the outlined cells.
if i were you, id adjust the cells by .3 and then do another pull and compare the old to new wideband reading and figure it out that way.. all that calc **** seems dumb. once you know how much .3 .2 etc actually effects the a/f it will be a breeze.
btw once you go out and do another pull and see you actually CHANGED your tune, it will motivate you big time ...... it will make you feel accomplished and then you can keep going until you have your tune where you're happy with it.
You really notice this when you start using the EvoM virtual Dyno to see the power you are making.
Ethan....did you ever disable Lean Spool ? ?
Is anyone ever "happy" with their tune? I mean, once you start making more power it becomes addicting. You have to physically stop yourself from doing more and more and more.
You really notice this when you start using the EvoM virtual Dyno to see the power you are making.
Ethan....did you ever disable Lean Spool ? ?
You really notice this when you start using the EvoM virtual Dyno to see the power you are making.
Ethan....did you ever disable Lean Spool ? ?
i told him to turn that off, but i dont think he did because his initial tune was with it turned on.
from your experience Appauldd, how much does .3 incriment effect a/f ? by approx how many points? or is this something that is different for every car?
To say ".3" for every car would be an inaccurate way of making adjustments. There are far to many variances from car to car to make the change the same for all.
It all comes down to logging the pull and making adjustments. I really take my time and do multiple pulls. I try to use flat ground, up hill, and down hill. I want to see as many load cells as possible.
My train of thought on tuning is a lot different than most "tuners". I could care less about big peak numbers.
My reasons are that the car, in most cases, will only hit those big numbers on rare occasions where it is on the dyno, the strip, or racing illegally. I try to build the fattest area under the curve as possible and get boost to come on a soon as possible.
I do so, as I stated above, in as many load cells as possible. Then the car will react well in all conditions. Ironically enough, by tuning this way....the peak numbers come naturally.
The best part of my methodology is that your car will be much more pleasurable to drive because you have power in the regions the car sees the most.....low and mid range.
It all comes down to logging the pull and making adjustments. I really take my time and do multiple pulls. I try to use flat ground, up hill, and down hill. I want to see as many load cells as possible.
My train of thought on tuning is a lot different than most "tuners". I could care less about big peak numbers.
My reasons are that the car, in most cases, will only hit those big numbers on rare occasions where it is on the dyno, the strip, or racing illegally. I try to build the fattest area under the curve as possible and get boost to come on a soon as possible.
I do so, as I stated above, in as many load cells as possible. Then the car will react well in all conditions. Ironically enough, by tuning this way....the peak numbers come naturally.
The best part of my methodology is that your car will be much more pleasurable to drive because you have power in the regions the car sees the most.....low and mid range.


