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Old Dec 17, 2010 | 11:50 PM
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error P0141 and P0136

Hi guys, how to overcome the error P0141 and P0136 evo 9 (rom 88840016)
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 07:10 AM
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Both errors relate to the rear O2 sensor, probably disconnected? is it a standard rom or a Tephra version?
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 08:02 AM
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cat not up to temp CEL .you can turn it off in perifery bits "141 not in FSM" or something.

I get them (or use to) with a high flow cat and less timing retard when it gets colder.
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 10:17 AM
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I have a standard rom but I just used the 714 rom v7, error remained the same
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 10:22 AM
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Have you enabled the rear O2 simulator in the mod options, this should remove the P0136 error, not sure about the P0141 (heater circuit error).
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 10:41 AM
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i have ecu+ and I am simulating the rear o2 senor, however the p0141 code pops up. because the o2 sensor was completely removed by the previous owner.

Does the heater circuit make any real difference to the way the functions so long as the signal is still being processed?

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Old Oct 29, 2011 | 08:14 PM
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^^^i have the same issue as shadovarian....in for answers
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Old Oct 30, 2011 | 01:15 AM
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This patch will remove heater circuit cel. With 88840016 you will still have problem with rear O2 signal as there is no simulator like in 8858 tephra rom. With tephra v7 rom and if your rear O2 is totally removed: enable simulator from tephra options, change this bit to zero and cel is gone

88840016:
Code:
<table name="Heater CEL" category="Rear O2" address="2ee1f" type="2D" level="2" scaling="blobbits">
        <table name="Bit values" type="Static Y Axis" flipy="true" elements="8">
            <data>N/A</data>
            <data>N/A</data>
            <data>N/A</data>
            <data>N/A</data>
            <data>Rear O2 Heater CEL Enable(1)/Disable(0)</data>
            <data>N/A</data>
            <data>N/A</data>
            <data>N/A</data>
        </table>
    </table>
88580014:
Code:
<table name="Heater CEL" category="Rear O2" address="2e9f1" type="2D" level="2" scaling="blobbits">
        <table name="Bit values" type="Static Y Axis" flipy="true" elements="8">
            <data>N/A</data>
            <data>N/A</data>
            <data>N/A</data>
            <data>N/A</data>
            <data>Rear O2 Heater CEL Enable(1)/Disable(0)</data>
            <data>N/A</data>
            <data>N/A</data>
            <data>N/A</data>
        </table>
    </table>
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Old Oct 31, 2011 | 06:54 PM
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ALright so I have to get someone to do this, who would be a wise choice to have it done?

As for the simulator my ECU+ is already simulating the signal just not the heater circuit

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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 06:40 PM
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Is there anyone I can send my ecu to in order to have this stuff done? I don't have an openport or tactrix cable.
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 02:14 AM
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I guess it would be more efficient to buy the cable (worth-while investment in any way), get the sufficient .xml for your ROM from knowledgeable people here and apply the change yourself (such things are really easy).

Other option is to find someone around you with cable and ask for help - this operation really takes about 3mins (download your ROM to laptop, press "-" once and upload ROM to the ECU) if .xml is available (5mins if you need to amend it ) and shouldn't be a problem at all for anyone who knows at least the basics of Ecuflash tuning.
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 12:14 PM
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first ECUFlash write to ECU

Originally Posted by donner
This patch will remove heater circuit cel. With 88840016 you will still have problem with rear O2 signal as there is no simulator like in 8858 tephra rom. With tephra v7 rom and if your rear O2 is totally removed: enable simulator from tephra options, change this bit to zero and cel is gone

88840016:
Code:
<table name="Heater CEL" category="Rear O2" address="2ee1f" type="2D" level="2" scaling="blobbits">
        <table name="Bit values" type="Static Y Axis" flipy="true" elements="8">
            <data>N/A</data>
            <data>N/A</data>
            <data>N/A</data>
            <data>N/A</data>
            <data>Rear O2 Heater CEL Enable(1)/Disable(0)</data>
            <data>N/A</data>
            <data>N/A</data>
            <data>N/A</data>
        </table>
    </table>
88580014:
Code:
<table name="Heater CEL" category="Rear O2" address="2e9f1" type="2D" level="2" scaling="blobbits">
        <table name="Bit values" type="Static Y Axis" flipy="true" elements="8">
            <data>N/A</data>
            <data>N/A</data>
            <data>N/A</data>
            <data>N/A</data>
            <data>Rear O2 Heater CEL Enable(1)/Disable(0)</data>
            <data>N/A</data>
            <data>N/A</data>
            <data>N/A</data>
        </table>
    </table>
I have added this routine to the definition file 88840016.
Pushed the ROM file back to the ECU. (ECUflash has reported identical image afterwards).

Is there anything more to do?
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