MAP Sensor Settings
#16
So I have tested quite a few Evo 8 Stock MAP sensors now (part#MD305600) and have come to a conclusion. They are either of very poor tolerance from the factory or they tend to drift over the years. Some I have tested read perfect atmospheric pressure and some read MUCH higher (122kpa vs the actual 99kpa). I confirm them with a brand new OMNI 4bar sensor I keep around just for testing. I also checked voltage at the sensor and it is a solid 5.00 volts and the output voltage corresponds with the ADC input I read in Evoscan.
With that said, I don't recommend using a stock MDP sensor for any true logging unless you confirm that it reads your correct atmospheric pressure with the key on/engine off.
This might explain why the evo9 has a different part#.
-Jamie
With that said, I don't recommend using a stock MDP sensor for any true logging unless you confirm that it reads your correct atmospheric pressure with the key on/engine off.
This might explain why the evo9 has a different part#.
-Jamie
Last edited by Dynotech Tuning; May 15, 2013 at 08:08 AM.
#17
So the '03-'04 evos appear to use Delphi PS10078 MAP sensors and the '05-'06 evos use totally different MAP sensors and seem to log differently as well. I'm trying to find data sheets on these sensors to no avail.
Sensor part #'s:
'03-'04: MD305600 (also E1T19172)
'05-'06: MN153281 (also E1T16871)
-Jamie
Sensor part #'s:
'03-'04: MD305600 (also E1T19172)
'05-'06: MN153281 (also E1T16871)
-Jamie
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So the '03-'04 evos appear to use Delphi PS10078 MAP sensors and the '05-'06 evos use totally different MAP sensors and seem to log differently as well. I'm trying to find data sheets on these sensors to no avail.
Sensor part #'s:
'03-'04: MD305600 (also E1T19172)
'05-'06: MN153281 (also E1T16871)
-Jamie
Sensor part #'s:
'03-'04: MD305600 (also E1T19172)
'05-'06: MN153281 (also E1T16871)
-Jamie
#19
Thanks. I found that its actually used in a TON of Mitsubishi's... a ton, lol.
Had about 5 minutes to do a quick comparison between the '03-'04, '05-'-6, and OMNI 4 bar map sensors today just to see how much the two sensors are different at atmospheric pressure.
OMNI 4 bar: 1.19 volts = 101.784 kPa
'03-'04: 4.69 volts
'05-'06: 4.01 volts
Note: OMNI 4 Bar scaling is
5 X (.002421 X [kPa] - .00842)= Output Voltage
((Voltage / 5) + .00842) / .002421 = kPa
-Jamie
Had about 5 minutes to do a quick comparison between the '03-'04, '05-'-6, and OMNI 4 bar map sensors today just to see how much the two sensors are different at atmospheric pressure.
OMNI 4 bar: 1.19 volts = 101.784 kPa
'03-'04: 4.69 volts
'05-'06: 4.01 volts
Note: OMNI 4 Bar scaling is
5 X (.002421 X [kPa] - .00842)= Output Voltage
((Voltage / 5) + .00842) / .002421 = kPa
-Jamie
Last edited by Dynotech Tuning; May 20, 2013 at 05:22 PM.
#20
So delphi replied to my email regarding the specs for their PS10078 map sensor that is a direct replacement for the MD305600 sensor found in the '03-'04 evo 8's.
Voltage= .0452 x (Pressure in kPa)+ .330
kPa= (Voltage - .330) / .0452
They haven't given me the usable voltage range of the sensor yet though. So far it doesn't seem to be a good match for the OEM part at all.
-Jamie
Voltage= .0452 x (Pressure in kPa)+ .330
kPa= (Voltage - .330) / .0452
They haven't given me the usable voltage range of the sensor yet though. So far it doesn't seem to be a good match for the OEM part at all.
-Jamie
#22
So delphi replied to my email regarding the specs for their PS10078 map sensor that is a direct replacement for the MD305600 sensor found in the '03-'04 evo 8's.
Voltage= .0452 x (Pressure in kPa)+ .330
kPa= (Voltage - .330) / .0452
They haven't given me the usable voltage range of the sensor yet though. So far it doesn't seem to be a good match for the OEM part at all.
-Jamie
Voltage= .0452 x (Pressure in kPa)+ .330
kPa= (Voltage - .330) / .0452
They haven't given me the usable voltage range of the sensor yet though. So far it doesn't seem to be a good match for the OEM part at all.
-Jamie
-Jamie
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