"Car runs smooth as silk! Ceazar will be picking up his car Tomorrow, he is in for a treat since his last setup was with the stock evo 8 turbo...This should put a smile on his face from ear to ear!"


So will C-man be picking up his car today?

 

Wow. A lot of dirt has been dug up.

 

to clear my confusion up...

you tuned this car prior at .9xx CF to 389.

DG "tuned" it to "465" w/ a 1.2CF...which is 388hp at 1.0CF


and what you're saying is, he fudged the owner's #s so as to make it look like it gained power after tuning, but in reality, it didnt gain a single hp?




to DG...

 

Not at all, you are totally wrong too. The owner and I spoke about his power goals and we settled initially for 450whp on a 1.2CF to get him on his feet and used to the power. We let the car leave safe and sound at 460whp with intentions to build the motor a few short months later. You need to understand everyone thinks "they" know what is going on or what happened meanwhile you are all totally wrong. The owner and I spoke months prior to this tuning session as well with what route he wanted to take from upgrading his evo 8 turbo. The car could have easily made 520-550whp at 30-32psi but that was not the route we were going at the time being. Please don't add fuel to the fire when you don't know what you are talking about.

Also, the other dyno sheet above is a friend/client of Erkle in which a video was made that same day. That car happened to make 500whp exactly on TSE's Dynojet in Queens. That 389whp was made on our dyno with 0 changes a few hours later. The car was then tuned on race gas after and made 513whp if I remember correctly at around 41-42psi on race gas.

Dang, I wish Erkle never erased that video.

 

The man himself has spoken...

I'm sure there are some that wish for all of this info to dissapear into thin air.

 

A little mix-up. The blue car from the first post is my old personal vehicle that's been on a stock motor since the day I owned it and the day C bought it from someone else. i cannot vouch for what motor is in the car today.

As for fudging number's to make other customers happy--- you got that dead on!!!

C didn't know anything about correction factor until speaking to another x-dg client. I'm glad he's more informed now. The lies are now being exposed on a public forum.

 

Just clarification on your play on words.

-------If the power was "easy to make" you would have made it, like many other reputable shops on evom.


------- The day I conducted the dyno test, I requested uncorrected numbers from both dyno owners. I was told by you that you had the "New" version software that doesn't allow fudge factor... A few months later, you are considering 1.299 cf as your new standard for world records?

----The car made 520at .93x cf with boost tapering down to 38psi thaanks to the forge boost controller...Does evom want to know what limited the power???

I was troubled with ignition issues that restricted the amount of timing that the car wanted to take,,, I asked to change the plugs while I was on the laptop and Pete happilly offered a set of colder ix plugs that were in stock.... On the dyno a few pulls later the problems persisted--- Instead of pushing the car further irresponsiblky, I pulled it off the dyno and decided to inspect later...... Low and behold--- DG clowns put HOTTER heat range plugs in the car. Great job again!!


------- I chose to erase the vids because I do not wish to comply with the deception and bs surrounding Pete jr at DG. His father is a stand up guy that anyone would wish for as a Dad, but there are some life lessons that Pete has seemed to drink away.


Pete,,, You can either choose to keep going or call it quits. Evom doesn't know me as a quitter or a liar.

 

So wait, they took Erkel's old 11.2 EVO added almost 30% correction and passed it off as re tuned and making more HP?

These guys almost sound like another shop I know in westchester that likes to make **** up to pump themselves up.

I hear nothing but good things about Charlie though, shame that he will get dragged down just by being associated with them.

 

We have absolutely no intentions on calling it quits..sorry for the wrong plugs

 

where do you get 30% correction? 1.2cf does not sound like 30% to me. Thanks for the 2 cents though.

I don't know why you are saying we passed it off as making more hp..this makes no sense at all. The car's mapping was completely re-scaled and re-tuned with larger injectors than it used to have etc...

Everyone is making it sound like 465whp is so high for a 35r with full-bolt ons, cams, and an aem ems @ 26-27psi....

I don't know what you are saying..the car would most def. make this power on a jet any day of the week...

 

WOW! But there are two sides to every story...but this one is leaning towards one side big time. Subscribed! Do not delete this one as people on here need to know this things...Its just not about persons credibility, but also how persons do business and how customers are handled. I'm not a business owner myself, yet...but I plan on it very soon. There is no way to make everyone happy...but its how things are handled if everyone walks away happy then thats half the battle. I'm sure many are interested on how all of you handle this and want to be updated on these issues...

 

Your statement is fine but there is one problem:

When people manipulate others in ways to put people down. My Client who I consider a friend now got taken advantage of from an outside source. When I've been talking to him on and off for weeks now to build his motor, how could someone come on here and say his motor blew on the dyno the day we tuned it? The funny part is people are so manipulative that they believe all the negative b.s that gets brought up from outside sources who have no clue to what the real story is. Then they go on old news and try that for blackmail. All in all, the owner's car runs strong and well. He will be commenting later on when he gets home from work. I can guarantee our stories will both match up. I am known as an honest person who takes pride in their work. When I get sabotaged I could easily give up, but I am not weak and will defend myself where I believe It is due.

 

Pete I'll be honest i didn't know my car was getting tuned on a 1.2 correction factor I actually didn't know what that was until it was explained to me a few days after the tune. I didn't know my car was goin to be in detail on this forum because there are a few guys on here I was planning on racing but there goes that idea. Your shop has taken care of me and did stay late to work on my car and this thread has went so far off topic I'm suprised it's still open. I am planning on building my motor soon. And to my knowledge it's never blown up. People are taking bits and pieces and twisting thing around. I just wanted to build a strong street car and have fun maybe even get sponsered but now i'm starting to think I'm finished with working on my evo for now. Erkle your my boy and from the day you put on my intercooler till today I have nothing but good things to say about you. You always looked out for me you frigging taught me how to launch my car. We have been friends since before i bought this car. Something you will never know is I used to look atthus evo on YouTube and say damn I want a car like That. All I have been trying to do is make it back to the state it was in. Cause only me and Erkle know the **** this car has been threw after he owned it and before i bought it

 

Closed until Ceazar PMs me.

Ceazar - PM me and I will allow you to post in this thread. Until then - you are all on a cool off.