DBuschur, You had no bearing on our thread getting re-opened. You are not a site administrator, you are a paying vendor. We petitioned administration to reopen our own thread as attempts were made to intentionally derail it until it was locked and your mission was temporarily accomplished.

The roll weight is lower, not higher so your reference to roll weight has no bearing on output numbers. If the numbers were higher the numbers would be higher.

The fact of the matter is our car has yet to make a clean pass down the track hitting all gears with a good launch.

The final pass of the night we launched with no boost, come to find out we had lost the LICP the pass before but in 4th gear. It was hanging on to the turbo outlet pipe and had been dragging. Speed density still allowed the car to run fine so we did not notice until the final pass where there was no boost.

We are not here to impress you, nor do we need your approval of our times and power level or have to jump through any hoops at your beckon call.

If we decide to place our car on a Dynojet, it will not be any in Orlando. We are not playing those games and putting our assets at risk on our competition's dyno. We already have a friend of ours that has had to replace both his tcase and rear differential from a local Dynojet adding excessive load to the dual eddy brakes.

With that said, if you do not like our numbers, you can

-A. Pretend they read 463/395tq and/or

-B. Add us to your "ignore" list.

 

Nice

 

TTP, would you like to see the PM's I exchanged about this topic being locked and how I wanted it to be re-opened or would you like to speak to the person I spoke to at Internet Brands about it? Either way you will be proven wrong. I did NOT want the thread locked and was quite pissed off that it was.

I was sadly mistaken though thinking that since alteast 6 other Mustang Dyno owners are in agreement that your dyno is whacked that you might want to do something to figure out what is wrong.

I know your roll weights are lower, I know why they are lower. What you are not comprehending is your Mustang Dyno reads astronomically higher than any other MD that any other vendor on this site owns.

What myself and every other MD owning vendor on this site wants to know is if you messed with it or if Mustang Dyno has it screwed up.

Rather than acting like the victim and being nasty in every response you type why not fact the facts that something is not right and figure out what it is. Everyone is discussing it nicely and BVP has offered up the dyno time. I've dyno'd on DJ's, nothing is going to happen to your car, that's rediculous.

I am not being nasty to you and neither were the other vendors who were talking about the dyno numbers in this thread.

 

Then find one with out the eddy currents, like AWD's dyno.

Plus there is only 3 ways the load gets added to thoses brakes. One is manually and second is the person wired it wrong. Third, which is the most common, the dumd *** hit the brake button at the end of the pull before pushing the clutch in. If you can get the data file I can have it looked at. This way you can make sure it was the dyno or operator error. People love to blame the dyno for ****. 95% it is user error.

 

We have already stated that we contacted MD a number of times, they walked through the calibrations, checked the load cell and send out Don to inspect it and all checked out perfect. There is no more to do and I will not manipulate the numbers lower in order to appease you.

We have never changed the settings and have no plans to.

We have already had problems with BVP playing dyno games before the new owners took effect this year. We have no interest in going there nor put our driveline at risk like one of our peers did and had to replace his driveline components.

Your two options are still available:

A- pretend the numbers read 463/395 so you can sleep at night.

B- ignore our thread.

 

Edited, not worth my time.

 

DB; the evo world's drama king.

just let it go. you making stabs at DG Motors a few weeks ago then TTP with your belittling childish remarks in your sig isn't any way to appropriately conduct your image.

grow up, and worry about your own business and not others. you've already stated your concerns, so move on. jesus.

 

Please tell me to whom you spoke at IB, they sure as hell didn't talk to me about this thread. I opened this thread this evening on my own accord and I haven't talked to anybody at the mothership in days, and it did NOT concern this issue..

Contrary to popular belief, the EvoM Staff still runs this website. IB has a VERY limited input as to how we run EvoM; that is how they stated it would be when they bought this site and that is how it remains..

 

If we were an antagonists, we would change our signature to read: "beware of shops overstating their test vehicle weight or comparing tin cans 2250-2650lbs being compared to full street cars and expecting XXX ET and trapspeeds out of your consumer streetcar", but we are the victim, not the antagonist here so we will just keep on doing our thing.

We do not enter other vendors threads trying to derail them. The same courtesy should be obliged here.

 

Maybe if you owned a shop you would understand. But I wouldn't expect you to.

Its a pretty simple concept that David and many other are trying to get at. Its already been proven NUMEROUS times that TTP's dyno reads higher than any other Mustang out there. Not only do the #'s not match up with every other reputable shops MD, they also don't match up to the times at the track.

When you go into the dyno thread how many threads do you see from TTP? Thats right about every other one. Feel free to look for yourself. It's pretty obvious that TTP likes bragging about their #'s. Which is totally ok. The problem however is that its pretty obvious that their #'s are higher on any given set-up.

So what's the problem you may ask. Well you have all of these vendors paying their HARD EARNED MONEY to advertise their services on here. Then you have potential customers, most of which lets face it are pretty uninformed. We have all been there done that. What do you think they are going to do? They are gonna look in the dyno thread and think to themselves "Wow TTP makes more HP than anyone else. That is where I want to spend my money"

This isn't about Buschur vs TTP. This is about all the vendors being on an equal playing field. And at the end of the day us educated people can see through all the smoke and mirrors and realize that when a car that makes XXXwhp and turns around and backs it up with a slow track time that something just isn't right.

Just my .02

 

i concur.

i really think the admin/mods need to step up to the plate and correct DB's behavior. a slap on his wrists with a 1-2day account ban like a week or 2 ago isnt enough.

god forbid a forum member on here questions a vendor or tries to belittle them, they'll have their account disabled as soon as that post were discovered by them.

 

You know its funny you say that.

My car is FULL weight and when I say full weight I mean it. The only thing out of my car is the Spare and Jack.

My car made 440whp on Buschurs MD. I trapped 130mph.

So yeah your argument in regards to that is invalid.

 

do you own a performance shop? probably not, so i dont expect you to ' eitherunderstand'.


1st bolded - ok. we understand and understood that the 1st time comments were made about that. people that only seem to care are a select few vendors with much weight in their favor due to the history/success of their shop.

after those 1st, 2nd, 3rd,...50th comments are made about the same thing, the consumers/customers SEE that. make your statement, and leave it in the hands of the members/customers to decide what they want to believe.

instead, it becomes from a disagreement, down to a level of belittling, pointing fingers, accusing of dyno manipulation, etc.
at that point, it begins to not increase ANYONE's image. it just shows the possibility of TTP's #'s being skewed, and shows the antics DB will go to in order to get what he wants.



2nd and 3rd bolded -
all vendors ARE on an equal playing field. what seperates TTP from the rest is TTP likes to give more reviews, dyno charts, and other info about his customers cars that go to him in threads more than anyone else.
its not TTP's fault for outnumbering all the vendors for advertising his skills, customers gains before/after, and reviews. He's taking advantage of his vendorship label and doing what he's suppose to do; advertise his shops competence and potential.


im not swaying in any vendor's favor. i dont sign on these forums to read high school gossip from 30+yr old men. It is obvious who are the 'trouble makers' in the BULK of these redundantly retarded drama threads.

 

so does TTP officially have the stock ecu mph for the US?

 

DB claims:
Project White, 10.35 @ 138.53 mph (stock ECU/stock MAF MPH record)

even tho TTP just did 143 in stock ecu (tho w/ SD).

i forget if mellontuning has done 140s on stock ecu or not yet.