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haha...I love this $hit. It makes my day
Congrats Scott...thats pretty impresive

 

Exactly.

1. We all know that dynos are just tuning tools
2. Scott has given all the relevant info needed.
- Hp & Tq (on this particular dyno)
- Best quarter mile time to date with this tune
- Best MPH to date with this tune
-Weight of car & driver

So now we all should have a pretty good idea what XXX hp on this particular dyno is worth on the track and that's the only thing that really matters. Once he gets a clean pass & updates the time/MPH then we can add that data and see where it stands at that time.

Funny thing is that you always hear people complain about how dyno numbers don't really meaning anything & that track numbers will tell you the truth. Here we have both & people are still complaining. Who cares if this dyno reads higher or lower than another. It's a tuning tool & all that matters is that TTP is using that tool to get real world results

 

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What "THEORY OF MATHEMATICS"

DUDE it's not magic it's physics and math.

As was stated earlier in this thread there are many variables that can skew ET a bit but MPH will be damn close every time given Weight and WHP.

So you ask where did you get the power number if all these dynos read different. Run the car in the 1/4 get the mph and solve for x.

Math is great. Math is good

Tried true and proven back before any "EVO" was ever thought of.

HERE IS THE SO CALLED "MATH THEORY" 4 YA

This is your formula no tricks ok. Again its math can't really fudge it

MPH= the cube root of (HP/WEIGHT) x 234
MPH= (HP/weight)^.333)*234
Express it how you want

so

MPH = 0.609119950 X 234
MPH = 142.5340683

HOLY IT WORKS

 

gsrboi, explain how the other calculator provides different information? One stated he would have XXXwhp the other stated he would have YYYwhp. They were VERY far off. You don't know what figures are being used in those calculators. None of us do. That's why that cannot be relied up to solve this argument. The theory of mathematics is that math can be repeated with the exact same outcome 100% of the time. In this case, these calculators do not do that because they are using different formulas to account for drivetrain losses. Also, we don't know if they are accounting for RWD whp, AWD whp, FWD whp, etc, etc.

One fact remains...online calculators are NOT a reliable source to determine how fast a car will actually trap in the 1/4 mile. This is bench racing at it's finest.

The only number that matters is that TTP's car is capable of a 143mph trap for his claimed whp. There are many other cars with lower whp numbers from other dynos that are trapping significantly faster. These are all facts from real world track experience (not online calculators).

 

And the BR, CBRD and other MD dynos read stupid low and can be manipulated. NO 700WHP that weighs 3400lbs will ever trap 159mph in the 1/4 mile. BR needs to admit his #'s are not accurate but to comapre to other cars from his dyno is OK. Also I have seen the BR dyno read 730whp on a car that ran mid 11's at 130ish mph and was a blue Mirage. The car had small injectors stock fuel lines and a DSM FP3052. It happened at the Shootout 2 yrs ago and noone seems to remember the accidental 700+whp Mirage The TTP dyno reads more like a DJ which is what the engine dynos and et/hp calculators all agree with. MD dynos are garbage because garbage dyno operators can maniluplate them. DJ can just turn off the correction factors and the #'s are as true as can be. LOWER DOES NOT MEAN CORRECT!

 

FYI the calculator you posted calculates flywheel HP not WHP which would make a big diffrence. You are comparing apples to oranges here. A calculator that used or calculates WHP will always be more acurate since it doesn't have to figure drivetrain loss. It uses the power that the car is actually putting tothe ground for it's calculations

 

I am not here to bash anyone, not trying to get more points!

Baty, no one has ever claimed a car on Buschurs dyno will go 160 mph weighing 3400 lbs.

Cars that have gone 160ish with approx weight:

Mine: 708 hp, 2950 with me in it (200 lbs), 159.5
BadBish: 69x hp, 2950 with Kevin in it (170 lbs), 159.6

Neither of those cars are 3400 lbs. At the same time neither are gutted Tin Cans. Both can still be driven down the road comfortably with 4 people in them.

So we never claimed to go 160 at 3400 lbs. Hell, I dont even remember my car weighing that much.

Just to clear up some statements from before.

 

The thing is BR should want to show the power his cars actually make. Your car is closer to 940whp if it was a dynojet. That is CRAZY power and quite and accomplishment. My EVO as I drive it weighs 3240 and I weigh 180 so thats where I got my #'s. My car is not lightened.

 

I'm still trying to figure out how TTP's Evo weighs 3400lbs??

As for TTP's car making 763whp on their Mustang Dynamometer, I find that absolutely IMPOSSIBLE and I used to sell chassis dynos for Mustang.

 

batty200 - feel free to read this article before you start making claims that Dynojet numbers are the end-all, be-all.

http://www.hotrod.com/thehistoryof/1..._creation.html


Dynojet's read flywheel horsepower, not wheel horsepower. Right there in black and white straight from the inventor of the Dynojet Dynamometer.

 

If you read the thread before entering your "sponsored by BR statement" you would have read that the car weighs 3365 range.

You have not worked for MD in YEARS. Long before we ever purchased the unit.

Evom members will notice a striking trend in the complaints. Each one of them share a strikingly similar signature noting support or sponsorship from the same company.

 

My car WOULD NOT make over 900 on a dynojet. My car would make somewhere in the 830 range. Mikes car made over 900 hp on their dynojet and then made 80x on BRs at the shootout. My car would probably gain around 100 hp.

Im not really interested in making some ungodly number on a dynojet that means nothing too me. Knowing what my car is going to do next year when the tracks open back up and the transmission is fixed, thats what Im waiting for.