How many of the EVOs in the EVO Orgy were running AEM? If think 2 of the top three were running Apexi Power FC. Not very scientific, as it was only a few cars, but interesting none the less.

Not questioning the AEM, but pointing out that we all have our biasis and favorites and this tends to influence our thinking.

 

David Buschur ,

not trying to be off topic, but if you can't make a quality exhaust that doesn't fall off , how are we to trust your professional word on tuning, i'm referring to the daily driveability, and why you would want to spend an extra 500 dollars on an AEM ems when youc an have the same results with a cheaper xede for 900 and get the same results...

 

Just by looking at your trademark buschur stage packages, your stage one offers the piggyback safc with BR settings, if the AEM ems standalone is so great, why isn't it offered as the stage one? is it more than the average driver will need?

 

Evom Amigos,
This Groovytang kid is a studnet in Michigan somewhere, doesn't own an evo, doesn't own Vishnu products, joined only a month ago, and tries to inflame everyone. He has made bizzare references to me being a pedophile because I was trying to be cool to Evom member Ang Wen, who is a nice kid and dreams of being a tuner someday. Hopefully Shiv will never make the mistake of selling him his products. He is simply an A-hole.

 

I think you have me mistaken with someone else on this forum.

Groovytang.

 

Back to my question to David Buschur, where i was interrupted by a paranoid.

 

Hey what's your problem man. I am wondering what hole you crawled out of because your starting to attract attention you don't want. You are real brave man behind that keyboard of yours, yet you don't own and Evo and are too afraid to even post what state you live in.

I suggest you start looking for somewhere else to post where children are allowed to play. EvoM is a site for information and adults, not for immature people who don't have any helpful information to provide.

Gnulooks...

 

i own a 2004 blue by you GSR w/ 3400 miles BONE STOCK.........I don't know if you're confusing me with someone else? I have no idea what somgrunner is saying, but hes obviously confusing me with someone else.

Groovytang

 

There's an easy answer, because even though the AEM EMS is a great tool, its not for everyone.. the S-AFC is a good starting point and not a huge expense to pick up some level of adjustability and gains... Most of us who have been doing this for awhile, actually started with, and used the S-AFC for quite some time before moving on. I do believe in not spending money twice, but if you dont plan on spending the time working with the EMS, it may not be necessary and you can still make great gains with other tools.

This doesn't reduce the value of the AEM EMS, and its flexibility when its tuned by someone who really understands it, and if its tuned by a pro who is really proficient with it, and can spend the time on it, you can get drivability similar to stock. I have my personal preferences, but that is outside the scope of this particular portion of the discussion.

Is it more than the average driver would need? Possibly, but if the average driver has a pro adjusting and tuning it, he'll be perfectly happy.

I do think its a bit expensive of a mod to do "First", an S-AFC or Reflash would probably be my choice for earlier modding unless you are certain of your upgrade path and the direction you want to go in.

 

My suggestion for you is to sit by the sidelines and watch. When you have experience with mods, tunning, or racing then I would step in and open my mouth. Until then, you should try to humble yourself and not start something you can't finish...

 

Soooooooo...... You make the statement that David's exhaust fall off and you've never used any of his products.

Ok, now I'm going to time how long it takes for you to reply "Yeah, but I got this friend..." or "But I know this guy...."

You are simply here trying to stir up crap... This board has been there done that with the flame threads, and for the most part people are tired of it here.

 

Why are you asking questions that can easily be answered yourself?
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0406scc_evo/

It's not that it's not very scientific, but rather that it's not scientific at all and pretty much meaningless. Vishnu ran his Xede, the Apex'i sponsored Evo ran the Power FC, RRE ran the AEM EMS, etc... Shock of all shocks.

 

Offtopic note, but didn't that entire article seem very subjective?

 

I just recieved 3 Private messages from you cussing me out , Again I think you have the wrong person, you've been reported to the moderator.

Sorry for Off topic, Smogrunner will check this , i'll butt out, continue with thread thx

 

Remember the Evo Orgy is a invitation only event and not open to any tuner who wants to attend.

Its hard to draw conclusions about a contest like that.

I have begged, pleaded and prayed to get into a SCC competition and so far I have never been accepted. Not every tuner can get into SCC - they have only so many pages and so many tuners who want to become imortilized in those famous pages. I am hoping that soon my turn will come.

My evo is making 667 whp - (Turbo Magazine - Jan '05 Issue) and I run the AEM set up

Pruven's evo with the new Buschur GT35 R kit and halltech is making 600 plus whp also

The cars in the evo orgy were nice - but they are hardly representative of the highest whp evos out there