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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ModenaTwinTurbo
didnt really read the whole entire post, but.

every mark on the aftermarket cam sprokets dont exactly mean one degree they mean 2 degrees. not sure if the ones he has are the same but the aem ones are this way. he said he had one cam at 4 this could mean he has it a an actual 8 degrees moved back or forth. could actually valves kissing something. if the noise doesnt wanna go away.


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I have the Fidanza Cam gears. My understanding is the tick marks are in 1 degree increments for the Fidanza's. I am aware that others come in 2 degree increments such as the HKS. If I am wrong on the tick marks of the Fidanzas someone, please, correct me.

At this point the noise has all but gone away. The remaining noise is currently coming from the intake side of my number 2 cylinder. I am going to replace all of the lifters just to be safe. I think if I wouldn't have left the install incomplete overnight, this would not have happened. But no use crying over spilled milk.

Thanks to all for the information.
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 10:37 PM
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hey timzcat how but you do i revised write up on changing cams, focusing on the lifter portion.. just an idea..
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MadMsheen
I have the Fidanza Cam gears. My understanding is the tick marks are in 1 degree increments for the Fidanza's. I am aware that others come in 2 degree increments such as the HKS. If I am wrong on the tick marks of the Fidanzas someone, please, correct me.

At this point the noise has all but gone away. The remaining noise is currently coming from the intake side of my number 2 cylinder. I am going to replace all of the lifters just to be safe. I think if I wouldn't have left the install incomplete overnight, this would not have happened. But no use crying over spilled milk.

Thanks to all for the information.
Wow that is interesting. There was a post on here, I think it was dryad001 but not sure, where they took the car apart to clean the lifters and #2 intake was bad. Intake makes more sense since lift is higher and the cam lobe rotates toward the lash adjuster to open the valve.
You can replace the bad lifter without removing the cam so it's not a bad job.
One is cheap to replace but all 16 will not be so cheap.

They will basically never bleed down on their own.
dryad001 is shipping me a lifter so I can disect it and see the design of the check ball inside.
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dafarmer69
hey timzcat how but you do i revised write up on changing cams, focusing on the lifter portion.. just an idea..
I may do just the lifter portion and get a hold of Evomoto to add it to thier cam install. It is really easy to do, the Evomoto install just makes no mention of it.
If I did the whole cam install I'd have to add in the springs and retainers because of that whole issue.
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 12:22 AM
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with this ticking sound is it pretty noisy and noticable i dont think it is happening to me but i keep putting it in my head i put my head to the valve cover and can hear things inside but not a tick?

should i stop freaking out lol
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 07:39 AM
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Some noise is not abnormal. With the hood closed and walking by the front, etc you should not be hearing a ticking noise. Or sitting in the car you should not be hearing a ticking. A bad lifter will tick almost all the time and you will hear it. If you have trouble determining if it's injector or lifter you are probably too ****.
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 09:06 AM
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yep im 2 **** hahahhaa cause i litterally have my face on the engine and barley hear anything close to a tick hahahah thanks
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 11:38 AM
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Is there a rubber seal around the valve cover or is it a sealant? Kind of off topic, but I was curious. I would assume if it is either, it would need to be replaced, no? Well, at least the sealant.
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 12:55 PM
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thier is a gaskett but thier are like 2 or 3 areas that need sealent or tube gaskett actually herd u dont need to replace it i didnt replace mine
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 12:56 PM
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has anyone replaced the lifters? How much is one, or a set?
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Old Apr 30, 2005 | 04:00 AM
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I replaced all of my lifters/lash adjusters. The prices that I have seen range anywhere from $11.99 to $24.99 that I have seen on the web. I got a set for a really good price from Jackson Automotive Machine. They are located locally in MD, and have great customer service.

I found that the innitial tapping was the lash adjusters, but later it was a rocker arm. It fell out of place, possibly unseated due to a bad adjuster. I turned the engine over at least 5 times by hand before reassembly, and everything was fine, but....

Luckily no damage to the valve, valve spring, retainer, rocker arm, or CAM lobe. The car runs and sounds great, now.
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Old Apr 30, 2005 | 02:32 PM
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How hard is it to replase both the lifters and lash adjusters. If the rocker arm was off would you notice anything besides a ticking? I have really loud ticking that goes away after the car is warm and in warm weather it is much less noticable(quiter). Any thoughts?
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Old Apr 30, 2005 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by techause
How hard is it to replase both the lifters and lash adjusters. If the rocker arm was off would you notice anything besides a ticking?
A lifter and lash adjuster are the same thing as far as this discussion is concerned. They are actually lash adjusters for our cars, but most people refer to them as lifters. They are easy to replace.

If a rocker arm fell off, then that valve wouldn't open, so it would affect how the car runs (idle, power). Unless the rocker arm was being hit by the cam's movement, you wouldn't notice any sound from it.

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Old May 5, 2005 | 07:38 PM
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so to bleed the lifter, you just stick a paperclip in it??? anyone have pics of this procedure at all???
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Old May 5, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by NOLIMITMOTORS
so to bleed the lifter, you just stick a paperclip in it??? anyone have pics of this procedure at all???
It is really easy. There is a hole in the top of the lash adjuster. put a striaghtened paper clip down through the center to the bottom of the lifter and apply a small amount of pressure. Now you will be able to push the piston in and push the oil out. It is just a small check ball at the bottom.
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