Perhaps Tym Switzer just really knows what he's doing when it comes to tuning a car ? I wish more people could benefit from his services.

 

First, I think the WR is a good upgrade, same with the BR20G, not for the peak power, but how it holds the power.. Nobody seems to really pay any attention to that..

I also don't understand why people are so quick to jump all over a GT35r kit making numbers, but can't accept a nicely tuned upgraded stock turbo no matter what evidence provided.

Understood that you can get similar numbers with a stock turbo with a 10.5 housing, but I can tell you from personal experience that it still falls off HP significantly on the stock turbo, which kills your top-end pull. This dyno chart, all peaks aside, is showing an amazingly broad torque curve, that maintains power through a reasonable redline. This is what should be exciting you people.

Fury and I have a friend with the WR on the car, running the exact same combination he was before the turbo upgrade, his top end could stay ahead of some pretty quick cars.. With the WR, he's been annhialating some of these cars by several car lengths. He's running a race gas tune..

Then you have amazing drivability, good pump gas performance, etc..

I can't quite figure out no matter what is presented, that some of you folks just can't see that this is a good turbo for what its intended for...

There are a silent majority of us who have no interest in big turbos..

 

I'm not a hater, but I would much rather see results without an aid such as meth or alky before someone comes on and says "to all the haters". I think that it would tell more about the turbo and how it compares to cars with BR stage 4 or Vishnu Stage 1+. People then might take it more seriously.

 

I knew this was going to turn into a pissing match again.

I like the WR but from what I've seen unless you plan on using race gas or alky with an AEM you're out of luck. Yes, I agree that it makes more power then stocker and it better be. The question is it worth $1550 and this to each their own.

I don't have an AEM and don't plan on buying one. I don't see spending $1550 in my case.

 

So well put malibu! 35r is def. not for everyone lol.

Ii think the graph looks great. The torque is so flat all the way up top! The has to be a great car to drive! Enjoy it

 

I agree that the WR and the 20G are good uprgrades over the stock turbo because they hold the power where the stocker starts to lose its breath. I'm just not sure if it would be worth it to me, plus so many of these plans of "upgraded" stock turbos have failed. Ever since i've seen the videos of the GT35R 2.3L setup i've liked it alot Although I don't plan on doing that for awhile, I wanna abuse all the power from the stock turbo first, hopefully 400WHP. Maybe by then all the kinks will be fixed with these "upgraded" stock turbos and i'll change my mind

 

Keep in mind that pump gas performance isn't stellar an ANY turbo upgrade.. But lets see where it shines most, and we'll see the daily/pump numbers trickle down too.. Its definitely going to be an improvement over stock at pump gas levels anyway, at least you will see broader flatter torque curves and HP numbers that are better maintained through redline.. So what if its 350whp or similar to typical pump numbers on a stock turbo, what good is a peak 350whp or 350wtq for a range of 1000rpm and then it falls off..

 

The problem is that most people on here don't even know how to read a dyno sheet. They look for a peak power number and then dismiss the product because it "only made 20 more hp than stock". People need to look at the WHOLE CURVE. What does the TORQUE curve look like? Where does peak torque hit? How bad does peak HP drop off near redline? These are the important factors in determining how fast a car will get down the track.

 

/\ exactly, hopefully some of these sensible posts are calming down the clueless, as far as what this turbo was originally designed to to...what it is doing in this graph posted.
the internet is ammusing.

 

honestly...i will have to disagree a little bit with that statement.

The first two cars to recieve turbotrix's turbo upgrade (which is a modded 50 trim) made 430 and 450 on pump gas...no alky, no nitrous. just 22psi of boost.

i know this cause my 03 was one of them

it was stellar to me and everyone who rode in my car

 

please post the dyno runs to compare

how much tq 350?

 

At what RPM do you start making that 400+ awhp and I'm assuming it holds all the way to redline?

 

Make a how-to on reading a dyno sheet

 

Did you see the graph in the first post?

 

It depends on what you're looking for. You make the mistake of assuming everyone wants what you want.