Finally, 20G-9 dyno #'s!
Originally Posted by akEvo
not trying to start an arguement, but, didnt the rnr manifold you are using seem to cause knock issues in another test, which may be why your timing is low, compared to the timing that that has been stated off the stock turbo on pump...
Originally Posted by Dave@Kingpin
No infact i didnt.. The point i was trying to make is that, you have a huge power band, and the car is going to move. You have tremendous power over that stock turbo graph, in all the right places.. Numbers are just numbers, get the car out to the track and see what it does.. I have seen cars on that dyno at around that whp run low 11's with average drivers. What more do you expect then that, on a modified stock turbo, on the stock motor? If you don't like the turbo take it off.
Secondly you seem to have a **** poor attitude judging by the way you responded to me.. Don't be such a ***** to people who are trying to stay posative..
Secondly you seem to have a **** poor attitude judging by the way you responded to me.. Don't be such a ***** to people who are trying to stay posative..
You can take the name calling BS out of my thread. Thanks!
My input was stated before, i believe when it comes to tuning a car Timing comes first over all as long as you have a base set for boost. If you can't run more than 3* down low and 13* of timing at redline than there is a problem, maybe with the tune, maybe with the engine, i dont know, i would have to see this though. When i was looking at a tune with my friend who runs the WR turbo he was pushing 22* at redline on pump and that car has insane torque!
Originally Posted by EVOONYOASS
I wasn't trying to be a ***** and I don't appreciate the way you are talking to me. I simply asked for you to "please don't compare your dyno numbers with mine since they were on a different dyno".
You can take the name calling BS out of my thread. Thanks!
You can take the name calling BS out of my thread. Thanks!
Was the plot doug posted your stock turbo plot or some other stock plot?
Originally Posted by Dave@Kingpin
I am sorry if i took it the wrong way but your reply seemed sarcastic as ****.. If you didn't mean it that way, i appolagize.
Was the plot doug posted your stock turbo plot or some other stock plot?
Was the plot doug posted your stock turbo plot or some other stock plot?
Like I said, I am curious what the stock turbo would do with all these new added parts I have installed.
Originally Posted by Nez136
wow, that is VERY interesting. On my Stock MR turbo i am pushing 8.5* ramping to 20*-21* on pump gas ... There is some torque missing right there. I wonder why the car was knocking? Now on Meth+c16 you should be able to push even more timing than that. Something doesn't seem right here. Now just my the lack of timing you are runing the HP is way higher than the torque, which on a 20g is well... not expected....just my 2 cents
I'd like to see 34psi out of this thing.
Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
The way AEM and OBDII displays timing is not the same. AEM always reads lower.
I'd like to see 34psi out of this thing.
I'd like to see 34psi out of this thing.
Originally Posted by Nez136
I go off my Utec timing, even at my local race shop they talk about hitting up to 25* of timing on there hondas with the AEM
Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
The way AEM and OBDII displays timing is not the same. AEM always reads lower.
I'd like to see 34psi out of this thing.
I'd like to see 34psi out of this thing.
Originally Posted by EVO8LTW
What are the mods for the lower HP graph? Is that the setup minus the 20G, new FMIC, LICP, O2 housing and meth -- on C16?
Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
I believe UTEC as a piggyback would display stock ECU timing figues (as available from the OBD port with a datalogger).
Originally Posted by Nez136
I have seen datalogs of the stock ECU hitting 40* of timing.......the utec could NEVER go that high without detination. The Utec acts more as a standalone using the stock ECU for normal car functions. Thus the figures would be very similar if not exactly the same between the Utec and AEM
Sure the stock ECU will hit 40 degrees at part throttle low load, but you'll never see that at WOT. The UTEC can act as a standalone in some respects, but it still uses timing numbers comparable to the stock ECU.