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Subaru is another manufacturer known (by many a forum) to deny warranty work for whatever they can find. Many import high performance manufacturers do this. Mitsu isn't the only one. Often times American manufactures can get away with a lot more warranty approvals because part cost is way cheaper and avaliability is often higher beacuse many of the plants are local.

You also have to consider the car in question, if it's a high performance car that attracts a younger crowd, you bet your *** it has a MUCH higher probability of being abused and modified. I bet Mitsu doesn't deny NEARLY as many warranty claims on their Montero or some other random car that doesn't attract the same crowd as the Evo.

 

Wow, that seems a bit ridiculous. I don't see how anything posted on this forum is legal proof that you had these modifications on your car at all, let alone that they caused your engine failure. I just found my way over here because of a post on vwvortex from a buddy of yours, Stew.

For me, this seems like a good excuse to build that motor on your own and get back at Mistu in court.

Good luck to you, and your car.

 

Stewie, Scott just told me about the bad news. I'm so sorry this happened. Hope everything works out for you.

 

vwvortexers huh? that used to be my forum of choice not more than one and a half years ago.
u guys ever see stews oz superlegerras? yeah thoses were mine, sold them to him after i traded my golf in. loved those wheels.

 

Yeah those superlegerras where sweet. Very hard to come by in that color.

 

Those were awesome wheels

Nothin like the VW crew showin some love

 

To all the haters:

I am currently paying for a motor tear down at Mitsubishi, so that the root cause can be determined. One of two things will happen

1) They determine the mods caused the failure
2) They determine an OEM part failed per-maturely, and caused the failure

If #1 happens, I pay. If #2 happens, they pay.

That seem "Fair"?? I think so.

Thanks for your time, move along.

 

Did you have to work at it to get this option or was it offered to you up front?

Is this done at the dealership or are the failed components sent out to another facility for examination?

 

i don't think Smog was talking to just stew, but to all of the people who are chiming in about warranty claims. and FLASHING the stock computer is a MAJOR modification, not a minor bolt on.

again, im not saying anything about Stew....just in general.

 

I was not offered this option up front, but told them how I feel about the possibility of it being an OEM part. The District Rep said, "Well, you can authorize the shop to tear it down for you if you want and look for the cause, but you foot the bill [asuming it is not covered under warranty]."

They assume it will be an open and shut case against the warranty. Unfortunately the moment they see a mod they automatically assume said mod(s) led to the issue.

I can't wait for them to find a faulty OEM bearing, or lack of oil pressure causing the bearing decay.

This is done at the dealership, I believe once the head is off the Service manager inspects and will confer with the District Rep to come to a solution.

Does anyone really mean to tell me these finely ground shavings will be the result from a motor blow this catastrophic? I highly doubt it. Looks like that bearing had been wearing for some time, where as the flash was only present for around 9-10 days prior.

 

NOW THEY HAVE YOUR FINGERPRINTS TOO!!! you are SCREWED!!

 

Where warranties are concerned, this sort of thing went to federal court some years ago. In short, the way the judgment works is like this: If the consumer modifies something that can be directly attributed to the cause of the failure, the manufacturer is exempt from responsibility. This means it's their discretion to do as much or little as they see fit. It's not advantageous to those (of us) who mod their cars, but it's fair nonetheless.



Define "minor". A 'minor mod' (e.g. an mbc or improperly programmed drug-strore grade tuning device) is plenty enough to grenade a perfectly good engine.


Well, if statistics show that it would likely happen only after the warranty period, they'd still be exempt now wouldn't they?

 

what statistics? the fact of the matter is, if they find something wrong that had nothing to do with "mods" then they should cover it no questions asked. the only concern i have is the mechanic being honest about what he found.



Well, if statistics show that it would likely happen only after the warranty period, they'd still be exempt now wouldn't they?[/QUOTE]

 

come on, I'm smarter than that. That's not my finger

I exactly wouldn't call a tuner that has flashed over 2500 cars a "drug-store" grade tuner. Or a MBC set for stock boost either.

Yes, but unfortunately for Mitsubishi there have been quite a large number of 100% bone stock Evolutions encountering the same bearing issues. If I had not been aware of that fact, I would not even have my car anywhere near the dealership.

 

Stew, by no means was I calling Al's work 'drug-store' grade or even referring to it specifically. (LOL) I was only making a rhetorical comment in saying is that it takes only a few missplaced nickels to bring down a multi-thousand $$ house of cards.

If dealers note a discernable premature failure pattern that points to bearing issues, the manufacturer will issue a technical service bulletin (TSB) to notify dealers of a problem. You can check the EVO TSBs and see if anything pops up with respect to bearing failure.