BLOWN Motor Part 3 (DECISION)
Originally Posted by IE Evo
Al, if you really care about Stew and his predicament, why don't you talk to your boy Dave and u guys sponser him to help him out. Just a suggestion and not an attack. Good idea IMO because as u claim not many of Engines that u tune fail. So Stew's mishap can be viewed as an isolated incident and worrying about setting a precedents of Dynoflashed blown engines getting sponsership, will not be a worry because your track record of engine failures is low. .
Vishnu guys are back in action... IE you are on my list
Why is everyone saying build tranny? He can do that later, for now he needs to be back on the road.
Do one thing at a time... so if something fails after the fix you know from where exactly.
Do one thing at a time... so if something fails after the fix you know from where exactly.
Stew....sorry to hear about your troubles......
BTW, which dealership in CT did you bring this to?
I just want to make sure I avoid them in the future..even though I have a stock evo...
Good Luck to you
BTW, which dealership in CT did you bring this to?
I just want to make sure I avoid them in the future..even though I have a stock evo...
Good Luck to you
Originally Posted by Stew
Yea, and who knows if the input shaft is out of wack now or not... 
..It also has a blown 5th gear synchro, so now seems like the time to re-do the tranny.
..It also has a blown 5th gear synchro, so now seems like the time to re-do the tranny.
The dealership is not the issue, its the District Rep. The dealer cannot make decisions on warranty work (in cases for the Evo atleast), they have to go through the Rep, who handles a TON of dealerships. He has not been fair in this case at all yet, and I'm not holding my breath. Rep = Jim Sipriano.
Originally Posted by Stew
I like the way you think 
Al, let me know if you want a portfolio of my race results
Al, let me know if you want a portfolio of my race results
A few points on IE's suggestion and this generally
First of all Buschur has nothing to do with this car as there were no Buschur parts on it what so ever.
I take what I do very seriously and stand behind what I do 100%
I have many, many customers out there with my product and if any of them have any problems at all the first move should be to call me and discusss the situation. Even if I have zero responsibility for the problem, out of good will I WILL consider offering some help in one form or another. If for some reason my product is at fault I stand behind what I do 100%. If I screwed up a tune and someone's piston melted I would fix it - period. Seriously, though if people want my help and assistance they have to work with me. You can not decide to handle things on your own, make your own decisions and then expect me to throw you a life presever when you are in a total cluster ****. For those who may ever wind up in a similar situation - epsecially those who live in my area - call me first.
In this case which has been well documented I am very confident that my product is not the cause of the failure at issue.
Also - the customer elected NOT to contact me to seek assistance when he had the incident. Instead, he chose to post all this on the internet and then take the car to
with mods on it for a warranty claim. I know this was a stressful incident but it was fairly obvious where this was all headed a few days ago. I was not contacted before the posts were made. I was not contacted before it was taken to the dealer, and I was not contacted before the dealer tore down the engine and
denied his warranty. I dont expect to be contacted now.Not that it has anything to do with it, but the customer also continued to operate the car after it was advised to get a fuel pump in the car well before the incident. Also he was on the way to a race when the car expired.
Also, ANYONE who hears any noise in the car MUST stop running it IMMEDIATELY. Continuing to drive the car with a mechanical sound is not a good idea as you can see in many cases the damage escalates. What could have been just replacing one rod bearing and a set of rod bolts has become a real nightmare.
Your' lucky if you do get an advance warning of a rod knock. In my last case h my car witit was at the WRX vs EVO event and I went through the entire day or racing with the noise getting worse and worse. The difference is I knew I was taking a chance to blow the motor to bits and wanted to win the race. Anyone reading this stuff - if you hear ANY strange noises in your engine - STOP - DO NOT DRIVE - call a tow truck and have it looked at.
Best of luck to you Stew.
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Originally Posted by Stew
*********DECISION FROM MITSUBISHI*********
Just talked to the service manager, who talked to the district representative, who got this information from Mitsubishi:
They are DENYING the warranty work due to "PRE-DETONATION".
My first comment was, "there is no such thing as pre-detonation. Its either pre-ignition or detonation. "
Who's seen 'Malibu's Most Wanted'??? "I got Game Cast." , "uh, its either Game Cube, or Dream Cast, whatchu got?" "I SAID GAME CAST MOTHER F*CKER"
..Anyway, atleast Mistu did not care about anything to do with over-revving (which did NOT happen anyway).
Correct me if I'm wrong, but does anyone else see any signs of Detonation there??? Pre-ignition??? I'm about to eat a $15,000 bill.. would like to make sure its legit.
For reference:
First thread - https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=188501
Second thread (Internal pics) - https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=188847
Just talked to the service manager, who talked to the district representative, who got this information from Mitsubishi:
They are DENYING the warranty work due to "PRE-DETONATION".
My first comment was, "there is no such thing as pre-detonation. Its either pre-ignition or detonation. "
Who's seen 'Malibu's Most Wanted'??? "I got Game Cast." , "uh, its either Game Cube, or Dream Cast, whatchu got?" "I SAID GAME CAST MOTHER F*CKER"
..Anyway, atleast Mistu did not care about anything to do with over-revving (which did NOT happen anyway).
Correct me if I'm wrong, but does anyone else see any signs of Detonation there??? Pre-ignition??? I'm about to eat a $15,000 bill.. would like to make sure its legit.
For reference:
First thread - https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=188501
Second thread (Internal pics) - https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=188847
What would not have been "fair" about leaving the car with the mods on there?
Sounds like "fair" is up to interpretation when it comes to some people.
Sounds like "fair" is up to interpretation when it comes to some people.
Originally Posted by Stew
Here's a synopsos of the first 2 threads.. The car went to the dealer basically stock, they found threads HERE on EVOM that suggested I had mods in the car previously, and used that against me. I also stated I was not trying to pull a fast one on Mitsu by returning to stock, just attempting to get a fair estimate of what actually caused the damage, which they did not do.
Originally Posted by EVOOOO8
Does anyone know if Stew could take his vehicle back to stock appearing and have it covered under warranty? Or were all of his mods in plain view. If a car is stock in appearance and pre-detonates is it not covered? Anyone?
Last edited by blonde; Mar 10, 2006 at 01:56 PM.
Originally Posted by DynoFlash
Also - the customer elected NOT to contact me to seek assistance when he had the incident. Instead, he chose to post all this on the internet and then take the car to with mods on it for a warranty claim. I know this was a stressful incident but it was fairly obvious where this was all headed a few days ago.
I was not contacted before the posts were made. I was not contacted before it was taken to the dealer, and I was not contacted before the dealer tore down the engine and denied his warranty. I dont expect to be contacted now.
with mods on it for a warranty claim. I know this was a stressful incident but it was fairly obvious where this was all headed a few days ago. I was not contacted before the posts were made. I was not contacted before it was taken to the dealer, and I was not contacted before the dealer tore down the engine and
denied his warranty. I dont expect to be contacted now.You were not contacted before anything here because your flash did NOT have anything to do with the motor problem, as shown by the tear down. I did not feel the need to call Tien either. etc.
Running without a fuel pump was not the best idea, and I was aware of that. I hope you're not pointing blame here. Does it look to you like a lean condition caused serious detonation, enough to spin a bearing? You may PM me with that answer if you'd like.
Originally Posted by 4G63>OOOO
What would not have been "fair" about leaving the car with the mods on there?
Sounds like "fair" is up to interpretation when it comes to some people.
Sounds like "fair" is up to interpretation when it comes to some people.
Get my point?