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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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Ultimate: How many mph does your nitrous setup add to your trap speeds? Have you ever run it with just the alky(w/o N2O) just for comparison's sake?
I trap 115-117 on meth alone and 120-122 on a 50 shot...pretty nice improvement...
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 09:01 PM
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N20 FTW! There are many variable that either make it safe or not. It's not as simple as just, "I'm gonna spray some NOS." Many topics around here on this topic. Anyone who says it's gonna instantly blow up your car doesn't have a clue, but neither does the guy who says just spray it to the moon and it'll hold. Learning, prepping, and not skimping out and doing it on the super cheap could keep you spraying a very nice, but not outrageous shot of nitrous for quite a while.
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 09:02 PM
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its not cheap to use, its costly and it costs a bunch to have a full safe setup...
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 09:09 PM
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If you're going to run NOS you have to make sure that you are spraying right before the MAF sensor so that the ecu could make adjustments when you press that button. Its cheaper to have alky, but a 50 shot wouldn't hurt just for those times that you get beat on the first run
Are you ****ING kidding me, you have to be the most unedjucated person I have ever heard try to talk about nitrous. Please, no one ever listen to this kid. How the hell do you think our maf is going to know the difference between AIR and NITROUS. Not to mention, its readings are gonna be hella accurate when its FROZEN.

To the OP. Nitrous, while it will cool you down, is not a good thing to run 24/7, mainly because a bottle will last you about 5 miniutes if you were to just straight spray it. Plus the tuning involved would be risky because the bottle pressure would be changing all over the place just based on how much nitrous was in the bottle, ambient air temperature, and a million other things. Your better off with methanol.
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 09:10 PM
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another thing to consider is that most tuners won't even touch nitrous because of the risks...
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 11:18 PM
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cut a hole into ur air filter. get the edelbrock 500 pill and tap into ur filter. then run a hose from the fuelrail(welding may be required) and connect it to the filter next to NOS pill
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by tirbolag9
like everyone is sayin, use the search button and you'll find a few threads on this subject matter. if you haven't checkout socalevo or norcalevo.net boards....a little more friendly people on there...but ask a newb questions and ya get newb answers.
As much as I agree with the search function, the name of the threads on this forum must have been created by dip****s. Typically the thread names don't match the content (or arn't close enough, or don't contain enough). Ontop of that, when you search (sadly) you get about 40 threads a page with posts similar to the OP - where someone was asking the question, and then everyone replies with a "Do a Search".

So that being said... Searching can be more of a PITA than just asking the question and looking like a lazyass.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 04:25 AM
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one of the first misconceptions is that nitrous is dangerous... well guess what? its not.... its only additional oxygen carried with 2 nitrogen molecules... nothing special about it except it has a higher molecular weight per volume of oxygen then the air around us

You can spray the **** out of your car as long as these conditions are met
1)You account for the additional oxygen with additional fuel
2)You take into consideration the drop in intake charge temp
3)Your motor can handle the amount of power that the additional fuel/oxygen carries
4)You properly meter the rate at which the fuel/nitrous enters

So... if you have a properly tuned car whose bottom end can support the power you plan on making with enough fuel pressure/flow and a well metered shot i guarantee your car will not blow

There is much more to a safe nitrous setup then most people think

Safely you will need
-The nitrous system of choice (preferably wet shot)
-Form of engine management (or nitrous/fuel managment)
-Proper heatrange pluge
-Ignition aplifier
-Fuel pressure cutoff switch (to turn off the nitrous if the fuel pressure drops)
-Addtional fuel pumps
-Fuel pressure regulator
-Properly metered jets
-Wideband O2 sensor (with feedback loop to activate "Lean Condition switch" which turns off nitrous if you go lean)
-Method of retarding the timing
-A bottom end that can handle the amount of power you plan on making

Personally i have a separate fuel cell with a separate fuel pump and a separate fuel pressure regulator for my nitrous.. its completely controlled by AEM and the standalone adjusts my timing/fuel based on knock/fuel pressure/boost/af ratio

is it cheap to do it right? no... but does it add a ****load of horsepower? YEA!


and for the kid who said to spray it in the MAF... you may be able to get awway with it a couple times... but one of them a piston is going to sitting on your lap

I have buddies that have gone thru over 200lbs of nitrous spraying 250shots without a single problem! sure theyve invested over 3k into a nitrous setup but its well worth it in the long run

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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 05:01 AM
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(said with a bad lisp in an exiced voice) Ohhh Geee boys I am gunna put NAWS in my car.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 05:42 AM
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Are you ****ING kidding me, you have to be the most unedjucated person I have ever heard try to talk about nitrous.
This make me laugh

Now, to try to add something of value to this lost cause of a thread... While I would never do it this way, people have had good luck spraying dry shots through the MAS on many different types of cars. The air temp sensor has a lot to do with the AFR correction allegedly.

I personally just run a regular wet system, controlled by DSMlink/AEM. It was simple to install and worked beatifully last season. I'm glad I tried it. YMMV.
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 06:04 PM
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can someone help me.. I have done a search under nitrous and MAF but I can only find one person do this setup from california spraying outside the filter.. I haven't found any post where someone sprays right into the MAF itself.. I am really interested in doing this setup.. please help!!
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Top_End_EVO
can someone help me.. I have done a search under nitrous and MAF but I can only find one person do this setup from california spraying outside the filter.. I haven't found any post where someone sprays right into the MAF itself.. I am really interested in doing this setup.. please help!!
do a wet shot, don't bother with the dry shot on an evo with stock maf...
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by kjewer1
This make me laugh

Now, to try to add something of value to this lost cause of a thread... While I would never do it this way, people have had good luck spraying dry shots through the MAS on many different types of cars. The air temp sensor has a lot to do with the AFR correction allegedly.

I personally just run a regular wet system, controlled by DSMlink/AEM. It was simple to install and worked beatifully last season. I'm glad I tried it. YMMV.
LOL. Nice one. I might not know **** about the english language, but I do know a little about nitrous.
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 11:11 PM
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LMAO. Hey, it's all good. I do it all the time. Of course typing with two layers of gloves on wearing a space suit, I tend to fat finger the keyboard all the time...

can someone help me.. I have done a search under nitrous and MAF but I can only find one person do this setup from california spraying outside the filter.. I haven't found any post where someone sprays right into the MAF itself.. I am really interested in doing this setup.. please help!!
Again, I'm not a fan of this method, but for the sake of research, I believe it was DSMtuners where there are a bunch of guys running that way. There is a nitrous subforum in the bolt on power section, IIRC.
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 02:12 AM
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I feel for you buddy, I felt the same way after watching Fast and Furious: Tokyo Drift.

By the looks of the knowlegde you retain about a basic car, other than turning the big wheel and hitting the long pedal to make it go "Vrrrrrroomm" Stick with your basic bolt ons.
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