real intercooler test on the way
that is not what you said. you said "smaller turbo's don't generate much heat" "With larger turbo's that tend to heat the air much more". those are both incorrect statements even based on what you just said. if you want to talk about bulk heating then do so. if you want to talk about absolute temperatures then do so.
what you should have said is big turbos heat up more air. not heat the air more.
small turbos don't heat up a lot of air, but they heat up a little air a lot.
what you should have said is big turbos heat up more air. not heat the air more.
small turbos don't heat up a lot of air, but they heat up a little air a lot.
To remind others:
Hope everyone keeps it civil. I can't stress enough to everyone that threads of people doing this type of thing are down in number because people get picked apart for DONATING their time and resources. I submit to EVERYONE that if you do not appreciate this, or any other member's contribution, feel free to invest your own time and money to start a better thread of your own. It would be great to get to a point where people were posting useful information to the masses again (as some have stopped) as WE all benefit from it. However, I DO subscribe to preventing misinformation!
I hate "burning books", but WILL do so when people start trashing other's work without good cause, or soild science. I hope that everyone can objectively take from this thread results that can be properly applied as intended.
Last edited by Zeus; Jul 31, 2007 at 06:27 PM.
Zeus, come on, do you really think useful posting is down? hahaha Nothing some of us ever posted was found useful by some, you can't please everyone. It's very odd how just a few bad guys can ruin it for everyone.
It will be interesting to see the results.
I think the biggest concern here is low air density causing low mass flow rates and not any tuning related issues.
If the air can't get in because it's hot as hell from an intercooler with poor thermal efficiency, it can't make power. It takes air and fuel to make power, take one of them away and power will drop, regardless of how great the TOoner is...
I think the biggest concern here is low air density causing low mass flow rates and not any tuning related issues.
If the air can't get in because it's hot as hell from an intercooler with poor thermal efficiency, it can't make power. It takes air and fuel to make power, take one of them away and power will drop, regardless of how great the TOoner is...
Could someone post which cores are used with the ICs in the test? It would also be cool to have a list of the cores used on available/popular ICs that are not in the test.
AMS
APS
ARC
AVO
Buschur
Ebay Special
Garrett
GReddy
GRE Performance
HKS
Hyperflow
Injen
Kensei
Nisei
Peakboost
Perrin
Precision
Pruven
PWR
SBR
Slowboy
Spearco
SSautochrome
Stock
Turbonetics
TurboXS
AMS
APS
ARC
AVO
Buschur
Ebay Special
Garrett
GReddy
GRE Performance
HKS
Hyperflow
Injen
Kensei
Nisei
Peakboost
Perrin
Precision
Pruven
PWR
SBR
Slowboy
Spearco
SSautochrome
Stock
Turbonetics
TurboXS
Last edited by chmodlf; Aug 2, 2007 at 06:32 AM.
FYI there are 2 generations of Injen FMIC. The 1st gen (which I own) is a 23 x 11.5 x 3 inch tube and fin Australian made core (I suspect PWR). The current core is larger 23.75 x 11.75 x 3.375 inches bar and plate. I have no idea where their current core is sourced from.
They are normally $759 + shipping. Now they are $699 + shipping.
If you would like to pick one up give me a call here at the shop or if you have any questions please let me know. I'll be glad to help out. This goes for ANYONE!
Take care guys!
Well we all know the Race works. I picked up an ETS 3.5 FMIC for my IX and I cannot wait to get it. Anyone test that? Custom core it has and is comparable to that of the Garrett core used in the Race. ETS is becomming a mega player here kids.
yeah, I'm wondering why no one has mentioned ETS? I'm getting my 3.5" IC installed next week, I'll post dyno's of how it goes and see how much more timing a better flowing IC will allow. . .(hopefully)!
There are tons of our coolers out there now and the number of dyno results are growing every day The bar and plate core (our own design) is in our eyes the best possible combination of efficiency and flow without any gimmicks or buzz words and the results are speaking for themselves. With the addition of the hand formed (rather than welded at every joint) endtanks, ported inlet/outlet, modular design to fit any stock or stock replacement LICP or UICP combination, no undertray trimming and prices making them affordable to everyone, it would be hard for me as a consumer to justify spending more on any other intercooler 
Tom
The bar and plate core (our own design) is in our eyes the best possible combination of efficiency and flow without any gimmicks or buzz words and the results are speaking for themselves. With the addition of the hand formed (rather than welded at every joint) endtanks, ported inlet/outlet, modular design to fit any stock or stock replacement LICP or UICP combination, no undertray trimming and prices making them affordable to everyone, it would be hard for me as a consumer to justify spending more on any other intercooler Tom
We have extensively tested our core in various turbo configurations and several applications. Results have always been that 350-400 degree pre-intercooler temps are reduced to within 20 degrees of ambient at a road speed of approximately 60mph. That has equated to 100 degree AITs at the end of a 1/4 mile pass on an 80 degree day.
Most recently we've done that testing on Paul's EVO (ifarted2 here on EvoM) which is running our 42R turbo kit and 5" intercooler. I'll have him come on and share his results for an application that exceeds the cooling requirements of 99% of EVO owners.
Tom
Most recently we've done that testing on Paul's EVO (ifarted2 here on EvoM) which is running our 42R turbo kit and 5" intercooler. I'll have him come on and share his results for an application that exceeds the cooling requirements of 99% of EVO owners.
Tom