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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
The Nisei test against our Race FMIC has already been done............

I could be wrong, but I don't think the Nisei Competition core has been tested against the race.

I am pretty sure it was a Nisei Street vs. the Buschur Race core.
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 03:36 AM
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I would really love to see the Buschur Race FMIC put up to the test... I know I got my money on it... I doubt another intercooler could beat it and even if it did I bet certainly not by much, but a slight unnoticeable margin....
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 05:45 AM
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don't forget to add the turbo xs...GET BUSY!
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 05:58 AM
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This is what I said befor and I am sticking by it. I believe that Nisei Competition IC will win. Buschur FMIC will be right behind it. The reason I would get the Buschur racing FMIC over anything is because they have great prices for it. I believe $ 695? For Race fmic. That is a great price. I am still debating on wich IC I want to get.
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur

I've said it before, I'll put our exhaust, FMIC's, I/C pipes, engines, heads up against anyone's.

Rock on with the testing.
That is confidence with their product! And if for some strange reason, the BR didn't win, I bet it would be re-engineered and improved in a few weeks..
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 08:57 AM
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hmm all it is, is a garret core, mounted with the buschur endtanks?? so calm down... i bet if most of the people used a garret core, there would be similar results!!
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 08:59 AM
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Are you testing with the Nisei Street Core or their Competition Core? If it is the street core, from what I've heard, they are not producing these anymore so it may be a moot point. Interested in seeing the results though. It better be pretty bulletproof or it will get ripped apart on this forum... that is unless your David Buschur.
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 09:02 AM
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what mods does EvoI have,and how much HP,and what intercooler did you run before the testing
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by atlvalet
I could be wrong, but I don't think the Nisei Competition core has been tested against the race.

I am pretty sure it was a Nisei Street vs. the Buschur Race core.
You are correct. Thats why this test should be Nisei Race vs. BR Race. I also believe Nisei Race will come out on top.
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SlowCar
to really do this experiment correctly, you need 3 exposed type J thermocouple, 2 MAP sensor and some sort of data acquisition, the faster, the better.
Ideally, you'd also want a grid of thermocouple in front of and behind the intercooler. It'll allow you to measure the temp change of the ambient air going through the IC. I would also attach TC's to the surface across the IC to measure those temps.

And you need to have the speed of the ambient air going through the IC, and mass flow rate through the inside of the IC (MAF hz should be okay.... ).

That's the stuff I'd add in addition to the inlet/outlet temp/pressure of the ICs. I would also use a dyno and do 4th-5th gear pulls (however fast the dyno will allow). By using a fan, you can measure the airspeed of it and that'll stay constant; one less variable. Ambient air temp is really important though... heat transfer coefficient changes with delta T. So if it's cool out, you'll get better heat transfer. You need to do like a dimensional analysis so that you can non-dimenisionalize things so that you can accurately compare the data.

Bare minimum though, you do need the ambient air temp and it's flow rate going thru the ICs to calculate it's thermal efficiency (in addition to the stuff you already have). The pressure drop is easy enough in that you can compare it vs. MAF hz.

Anyways, I'm done rambling, have fun!

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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by spdracerut
Ideally, you'd also want a grid of thermocouple in front of and behind the intercooler. It'll allow you to measure the temp change of the ambient air going through the IC. I would also attach TC's to the surface across the IC to measure those temps.
Out of curiosity, why do you think ambient temp change is relevant?
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 12:41 PM
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94AWDcoupe, you are the MAN! I cannot begin to thank you enough for your hard work. This is a great contribution to EvoM. Finally, some hard core data!!!!
Agreed.^^ +1
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by EVO8emUp
Out of curiosity, why do you think ambient temp change is relevant?
It'll essentially tell you the temp gradiant in the IC. Of course, you can do that with TCs attached directly to the surface... but it'd give a second reference.

I was working on this huge condensor coil once, and 90% of the temp change occured in the first 3rd of the coil.

It's just that much more data that may prove useful
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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BRO!!!!

add the Turbo-XS...

its a very popular unit, the price is right and haven't heard any bad reviews...

Many people will be greatful...!!!
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 10:45 PM
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