cosworth dyno on ix sean ivey
Kouzman, you freaked out a little, man. He didn't say those cams make 40whp. He said they BETTER MAKE 40WHP to justify their cost ($740).
hi there i was also in the market for cams and these number seem lower then what i would expect, i not trying to offend anyone but i was hoping for 370-390 on 93 octane. i base this off my dyno sheet
evo 9 mr
HKS Carbon Ti Exhaust
DC Down PIpe w/cat delete
Invidia O2 Housing
ARC Air Box
DC Manifold
328whp on tuning technologies Dynojet with 91 octane
what you guys think the cosworth cams and the GSC S1 cams are the one im looking into
evo 9 mr
HKS Carbon Ti Exhaust
DC Down PIpe w/cat delete
Invidia O2 Housing
ARC Air Box
DC Manifold
328whp on tuning technologies Dynojet with 91 octane
what you guys think the cosworth cams and the GSC S1 cams are the one im looking into
whats up guys just got back from tune by sean ivey at 1320
evo ix
dynojet
mods
apexi intake
cosworth cams
hallman mbc
fuel pump
rsr downpipe (catless)
fujitsubo catback very quiet
i put down 340 whp 346 tq i thought the # would be a little bit higher but sean ivey tuned and he know his stuff im not going to argue im pretty sure my catback is holding like 10hp back i just swap it with greddy ti which was to loud had that on my 8 threw it on my 9 just after a while just got annoying long trips anyways this was on 23-24 psi all on 93
what do you guys think i know alot of people are going to say # are low
evo ix
dynojet
mods
apexi intake
cosworth cams
hallman mbc
fuel pump
rsr downpipe (catless)
fujitsubo catback very quiet
i put down 340 whp 346 tq i thought the # would be a little bit higher but sean ivey tuned and he know his stuff im not going to argue im pretty sure my catback is holding like 10hp back i just swap it with greddy ti which was to loud had that on my 8 threw it on my 9 just after a while just got annoying long trips anyways this was on 23-24 psi all on 93
what do you guys think i know alot of people are going to say # are low
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Warttalon:
You said that the rest of his parts, including the Cosworth cams, were "not so good". Which, incidently, is the same as "no good". At least to me.
Who told you that they aren't so good?
If you only have three choices, and they are the best choice, then they can't be anything less than good, right? In fact, realitive to their competition, they are the very best cams that you can buy! I have the Cosworth cams on my car and they are most definately good. Better than good, even. I understand that they had some type of defect during one of their initial batches, but not anymore.
You said that the rest of his parts, including the Cosworth cams, were "not so good". Which, incidently, is the same as "no good". At least to me.
Who told you that they aren't so good?
If you only have three choices, and they are the best choice, then they can't be anything less than good, right? In fact, realitive to their competition, they are the very best cams that you can buy! I have the Cosworth cams on my car and they are most definately good. Better than good, even. I understand that they had some type of defect during one of their initial batches, but not anymore.
Warttalon:
You said that the rest of his parts, including the Cosworth cams, were "not so good". Which, incidently, is the same as "no good". At least to me.
Who told you that they aren't so good?
If you only have three choices, and they are the best choice, then they can't be anything less than good, right? In fact, realitive to their competition, they are the very best cams that you can buy! I have the Cosworth cams on my car and they are most definately good. Better than good, even. I understand that they had some type of defect during one of their initial batches, but not anymore.
You said that the rest of his parts, including the Cosworth cams, were "not so good". Which, incidently, is the same as "no good". At least to me.
Who told you that they aren't so good?
If you only have three choices, and they are the best choice, then they can't be anything less than good, right? In fact, realitive to their competition, they are the very best cams that you can buy! I have the Cosworth cams on my car and they are most definately good. Better than good, even. I understand that they had some type of defect during one of their initial batches, but not anymore.
"Not so good" is not the same as "no good." It just means "not so good" or that there are better choices out there. Yes, I consider the current GSC cams to be better based off results I've seen. Why do you say they are "better than good" on your car? "Good" would be 30whp/30wtq gains with most of it seen through the entire powerband. Better than that would be amazing - I've never seen it with Cossies. I've seen plenty of weak dynographs and disappointed customers. I'm just basing it off what I've seen after reading countless threads. I have no reason to like one over the other, so this is my objective opinion. If they work great for you, then I'm happy. Others haven't been so lucky.
well if you search around there was some guy that made 400whp with cossie cams but also had meth but those where great results also.
[QUOTE=3000ways;4256482]WTF? Where have I been, I always thought the Cosworth Cams made 20whp or more, guess not
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in some cars they do not very consistent but i guess you might have to get valve springs and open the upper rpm range maybe that where the power is?
[/QUOTEin some cars they do not very consistent but i guess you might have to get valve springs and open the upper rpm range maybe that where the power is?
[QUOTE=evo ippo;4256555]
Not necessarily true! i got some crazy low end torgue with these cams even when i was pushing less boost than my previous setup...
Check the following...Mods in my sig except hyper ignition at 22-22.5psi spike tapering to around 17psi up high... Blue line... couldn't go higher that day as i has crappy 93 in the tank and the car was knokcing... verified that after changing gas station where i can run 1-2psi more without knock!!!
The red line is the mods in my sig minus piping kit, randomtech cat (had a UR ceramic unit), old tune without fmic, wg, o2 housing and higher boost!!! it was around 23psi spike...
Torgue Vs. Power
Boost Vs. Power
Even with almost 2psi less both in the top end i made almost the same power, due to more mods of course. When we tried a couple of pulls with the previous wastegate preload and exactly the same boost (~23.5psi spike) the car made in the mid 355whp and over 370 torgue but it was knocking due to ****ty gas and went lower... At 23psi on pump i verified my power with a 12.1@114.25 (4th pass ever on a strip and a 4wd car on the stock clutch, full weight GSR, 1/4 tank plus my 250lbs...)...
For me and for others cossies work like a charm, with plenty of torgue from around 3000rpm!!!
I guess every car is different!
Check the following...Mods in my sig except hyper ignition at 22-22.5psi spike tapering to around 17psi up high... Blue line... couldn't go higher that day as i has crappy 93 in the tank and the car was knokcing... verified that after changing gas station where i can run 1-2psi more without knock!!!
The red line is the mods in my sig minus piping kit, randomtech cat (had a UR ceramic unit), old tune without fmic, wg, o2 housing and higher boost!!! it was around 23psi spike...
Torgue Vs. Power
Boost Vs. Power
Even with almost 2psi less both in the top end i made almost the same power, due to more mods of course. When we tried a couple of pulls with the previous wastegate preload and exactly the same boost (~23.5psi spike) the car made in the mid 355whp and over 370 torgue but it was knocking due to ****ty gas and went lower... At 23psi on pump i verified my power with a 12.1@114.25 (4th pass ever on a strip and a 4wd car on the stock clutch, full weight GSR, 1/4 tank plus my 250lbs...)...
For me and for others cossies work like a charm, with plenty of torgue from around 3000rpm!!!
I guess every car is different!
crappy 93 ill trade you 91 pisstane for your crappy 93 anyday hahhaha
[QUOTE=kouzman;4256646]
Not necessarily true! i got some crazy low end torgue with these cams even when i was pushing less boost than my previous setup...
Check the following...Mods in my sig except hyper ignition at 22-22.5psi spike tapering to around 17psi up high... Blue line... couldn't go higher that day as i has crappy 93 in the tank and the car was knokcing... verified that after changing gas station where i can run 1-2psi more without knock!!!
The red line is the mods in my sig minus piping kit, randomtech cat (had a UR ceramic unit), old tune without fmic, wg, o2 housing and higher boost!!! it was around 23psi spike...
Torgue Vs. Power
Boost Vs. Power
Even with almost 2psi less both in the top end i made almost the same power, due to more mods of course. When we tried a couple of pulls with the previous wastegate preload and exactly the same boost (~23.5psi spike) the car made in the mid 355whp and over 370 torgue but it was knocking due to ****ty gas and went lower... At 23psi on pump i verified my power with a 12.1@114.25 (4th pass ever on a strip and a 4wd car on the stock clutch, full weight GSR, 1/4 tank plus my 250lbs...)...
For me and for others cossies work like a charm, with plenty of torgue from around 3000rpm!!!
I guess every car is different!
ill trade you 91 pisstane for your crappy 93 anyday hahhaha[QUOTE=kouzman;4256646]
Not necessarily true! i got some crazy low end torgue with these cams even when i was pushing less boost than my previous setup...
Check the following...Mods in my sig except hyper ignition at 22-22.5psi spike tapering to around 17psi up high... Blue line... couldn't go higher that day as i has crappy 93 in the tank and the car was knokcing... verified that after changing gas station where i can run 1-2psi more without knock!!!
The red line is the mods in my sig minus piping kit, randomtech cat (had a UR ceramic unit), old tune without fmic, wg, o2 housing and higher boost!!! it was around 23psi spike...
Torgue Vs. Power
Boost Vs. Power
Even with almost 2psi less both in the top end i made almost the same power, due to more mods of course. When we tried a couple of pulls with the previous wastegate preload and exactly the same boost (~23.5psi spike) the car made in the mid 355whp and over 370 torgue but it was knocking due to ****ty gas and went lower... At 23psi on pump i verified my power with a 12.1@114.25 (4th pass ever on a strip and a 4wd car on the stock clutch, full weight GSR, 1/4 tank plus my 250lbs...)...
For me and for others cossies work like a charm, with plenty of torgue from around 3000rpm!!!
I guess every car is different!
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Cosworth cams have proven to make power. We all know that cams on IX make less of a difference than 8, but they still make measurable difference that you can feel. Currently, there are no cams for the IX that add over 30whp over the entire curve on the stock turbo.
I got good gains on my car. Better example might be one of my friends car that was already making 417bhp before cosi cams with full boltons (Mani, TBE, O2, IC, IC piping, HKS RS, 680cc Inj). On 100RON pump gas, he made 20bhp more after cam install + tune.
What makes you say GSC cams are better?
I got good gains on my car. Better example might be one of my friends car that was already making 417bhp before cosi cams with full boltons (Mani, TBE, O2, IC, IC piping, HKS RS, 680cc Inj). On 100RON pump gas, he made 20bhp more after cam install + tune.
What makes you say GSC cams are better?
"Not so good" is not the same as "no good." It just means "not so good" or that there are better choices out there. Yes, I consider the current GSC cams to be better based off results I've seen. Why do you say they are "better than good" on your car? "Good" would be 30whp/30wtq gains with most of it seen through the entire powerband. Better than that would be amazing - I've never seen it with Cossies. I've seen plenty of weak dynographs and disappointed customers. I'm just basing it off what I've seen after reading countless threads. I have no reason to like one over the other, so this is my objective opinion. If they work great for you, then I'm happy. Others haven't been so lucky.