have you ever driven a maxxed out evo with a green turbo? if you had, you'd realize that what you said simply isn't true...perhaps in peak numbers, but certainly not anything else.

and lets not start into the costs of the green vs a 50 trim....there's a good vid on youtube of a 50 trim evo vs a stock 9 turbo evo....your theory of better response on a 50 trim wouldn't hold much weight.

edit: i think this is the link - I can't check at work

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/f...7900a28da3.htm

 

^ your link points to a 2.3l graph...he has a 2.0l engine....which is not a fair representation.

i too live in ca./91 oct. & I have been on the fence for a long time regarding turbo upgrades for my dd.....

i elected for the fp grn, as i never saw a decent 91 oct. pump gas 50 trim dyno chart that made me want the lag for the extra power @ peak revs.

 

HUH?! My green turbo has stock like boost response and found it to be very efficient. The only argument I "might" side with you on, is the 50 trim has a better topend. But you know what..... I have already crossed the finish line when your making your topend power....

 

Great discussion here guys! Please keep it up!

 

It all depends on his goals. Highway/road racing or quick spooling turbo. If your going to get a 50 trim, I would prefer a Green. They flow almost identical amounts of air. These turbo's are so identical, that BR doesn't even supply a 50 trim kit.

If you don't want the green, you need to get a 57trim or bigger turbo and then worry about turbo lag.

Jason

 

[quote=OKIX;4828031 My green turbo has stock like boost response and found it to be very efficient. ...I have already crossed the finish line when your making your topend power[/quote]

well said.

 

Sir, you have been grossly misinformed if you actually believe a 50trim gets better response than an FP Green. That is just a ridiculous statement. I spent a good 5 minutes laughing when I saw that. Hopefully, you typed that by accident.

Also, judging from the numerous track times lately, the Green seems to be faster than the 50trims, sorry. There are a couple in the 10s, and a couple in the low 11s. Many are trapping 123-127mph. That is around the same if not more than ANY 50trim Ive seen, not to mention, the Green has produced a 130mph trap, which although not common, shows potential and again, more than a 50trim. To boot, its cheaper because you dont have to buy a kit and yes the Green's response blows a 50trims out of the water. Who are you kidding here?

Thats a really good reason. So if Buschur swears on the TD05H-14B turbo, that will run 10s too. Good logic there.

If youre going to try and talk bad about Buschur, at least make it a legitimate argument. I dont like everything about the guy but face the facts, he knows his sh*it just about better than anyone and he is a drag racing pioneer. He says the Green is badass because it is, and the track times show it.

 

so how would a green compare to say an ATP 3071R Kit? this would be the only other turbo i would consider to the green.

 

I wouldnt waste money on that kit, especially since its around the same price as the Green. I doubt a 3071 could match a Green's power, and the Green will have better spool/response, so not much of a choice there.

 

I would have to disagree with this statement! I am not going to knock the green at all because I do think it is a great turbo but I am going to say that seriously to many people are jumping on "the green is the greatest turbo ever and makes so much power". If you took the same cars that are making so much maxed out power on them and put a GT3071R, 50 trim or 3076 on it the car would make more power. Bigger turbo=more power. So many of these threads are about greens with every susporting mod posible and running boost that peaks real high (which is were there max whp is) and then falls 2-4 or more psi before it gets to the end. If you absolutly maxed out one of these other turbos I think you would be surprised at what they would be capable of too!!

Also to the guy with the green that says he would be at the end of the track by the time the other turbos would be boosted........thats funny!! At a 6,000rpm launch and shifting at over 7,500rpm I don't think the other turbo's are going to drop out of there power band at all. Talking about track not a "interstate roll on"!!

Not trying to start an argument just saying I don't think that most of the references are apples to apples!!

 

im talking about pump gas per dollar, I dont like alky kits cause of an SMC failure i had last year. Which is why i built my motor and went with a 35r. So to me these stock replacement turbos.... arent worth it to me.
if your after power. a 50trimed evo can use stock piping ect.... To get the numbers fp green people clam..... u need a BR stage 4+ car. to me its easier and more enjoyable to drive a 50trimmed car.

heres another like to a TTR 50 trimed evo... stock block stock head. sorry the other one didnt work.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...highlight=trim


and FYI..... i am not grossly informed. I've driven every type of evo out there from my own 2.0 gt35r evo to a stock ***** to the wall evo. 3076, 50 trmmed. To me the 50 trim is going to be your best option.

 

When extolling the 50-Trim's superiority on pump you should probably qualify your statement, since there is hardly any reliable evidence that I'm aware of, showing that the 50-Trim accomplishes anything worth mentioning on 91 octane pump. The 50 is not even worth talking about on 91.

 

did you use the same DLL for your s2k?

anyway I wanna see your 1/8 drag launch with the s2k with slicks, that driveline will shatter like glass



good luck with the purchase, you cant go wrong with a fp green.

Joe

 

thats a good looking 50 trim pump graph, but its still on 93 oct.

however, i dont know if this guys wife is willing to downshift everytime she wants to get some power or feels like driving around @ 4500 revs all the time when she wants to be in the turbos operating range.

 

If you're happy with maxing out at around 400whp, then the green is an excellent choice. Honestly, that is the way I'm thinking about going myself. Stock like spool with great power. I'm also into auto-x and road courses, so the faster spooling turbo wins with me.