What Intercooler??
The good thing about farts is they float away and dissapear. Wah, I only raced one year, wah. I heard you blowing off your blowhard mouth at Sema. I got to laugh my *** off. " Passerby at D-sport booth. " Whats it run.? "you, oh I was taking it easy getting used to the car and my mph has not been much over 156 and a mid to low 9. When I decide to run it hard I will run past mid 8's and the high part of a 175." What a joke. Anyone can speculate. Until you do it, you are no different than anyone else. You think Dave cars about your car on the cover? Take a look at BR's shop and how many magazines their cars have been in. Most people have a short shot at fame. Enjoy yours. If you do set records and go on to be a big wheel deal in the import arena. Congrats. Continueing to disrespect other shops and people doesn't do much for your credibility. There is a time to be humble and a time to shine. And who gives a **** if it makes 2000 hp on a dynojet. Numbers are pointless. Unless you can use real numbers.
One thing you will find out about me is i will back everything i say im going to do.
Going 9's in an EVO is easy. Giving props to yourself for going 9's the first year of doing this is a waste of time. It's not hard to build a fast EVO, I've been laying down the numbers for almost 20 years with the 4g63, you can go to any reputable builders website, pick the parts and put the car together and race it and go 9's with ease.
How hard is it to gut a car, slap all the parts on that everyone else has already proven and then go to the race track, let me answer, it's not hard. YOU just spend $74,000+ on the build, plus the price of the car and run 9's, just like you said you did. No science, no nothing.
On the other hand, we started when there was NO aftermarket support for the 4g63 and have tested, blown up, caught on fire, crashed, changed parts, developed everything there is for the cars and made them fast and made it so others could follow over the last 19 years. That my friend is why I find so much offense in the ignorance put forth by many of the people now-a-days. No respect is given. I gaurantee you it would not be so easy if it weren't for us and all the other people who paved the way over these last two decades.
How hard is it to gut a car, slap all the parts on that everyone else has already proven and then go to the race track, let me answer, it's not hard. YOU just spend $74,000+ on the build, plus the price of the car and run 9's, just like you said you did. No science, no nothing.
On the other hand, we started when there was NO aftermarket support for the 4g63 and have tested, blown up, caught on fire, crashed, changed parts, developed everything there is for the cars and made them fast and made it so others could follow over the last 19 years. That my friend is why I find so much offense in the ignorance put forth by many of the people now-a-days. No respect is given. I gaurantee you it would not be so easy if it weren't for us and all the other people who paved the way over these last two decades.
The good thing about farts is they float away and dissapear. Wah, I only raced one year, wah. I heard you blowing off your blowhard mouth at Sema. I got to laugh my *** off. " Passerby at D-sport booth. " Whats it run.? "you, oh I was taking it easy getting used to the car and my mph has not been much over 156 and a mid to low 9. When I decide to run it hard I will run past mid 8's and the high part of a 175." What a joke. Anyone can speculate. Until you do it, you are no different than anyone else. You think Dave cars about your car on the cover? Take a look at BR's shop and how many magazines their cars have been in. Most people have a short shot at fame. Enjoy yours. If you do set records and go on to be a big wheel deal in the import arena. Congrats. Continueing to disrespect other shops and people doesn't do much for your credibility. There is a time to be humble and a time to shine. And who gives a **** if it makes 2000 hp on a dynojet. Numbers are pointless. Unless you can use real numbers.
im not about to defend paul, he is a big boy and can handle his **** him self, but the truth is he never got a clean run towards the end of last season. Yes that is racing, **** brakes, things will happen, but that car had alot more in it at the end of the season then the car got to show, and if there was anywhere around here that he could have raced the car he would have, he is not hiding from the real numbers
Jim P., guys like you aren't going to take anything I post and believe it. If I post a log you would then say, "Well I don't believe that is from an ETS car or an AMS car or a Buschur car, how do I know what that log was from?" Posting a log won't prove anything to a guy like you, I will then be accused of using a log from another manufacture and saying it is something else.
Going 9's in an EVO is easy. Giving props to yourself for going 9's the first year of doing this is a waste of time. It's not hard to build a fast EVO, I've been laying down the numbers for almost 20 years with the 4g63, you can go to any reputable builders website, pick the parts and put the car together and race it and go 9's with ease.
How hard is it to gut a car, slap all the parts on that everyone else has already proven and then go to the race track, let me answer, it's not hard. YOU just spend $74,000+ on the build, plus the price of the car and run 9's, just like you said you did. No science, no nothing.
On the other hand, we started when there was NO aftermarket support for the 4g63 and have tested, blown up, caught on fire, crashed, changed parts, developed everything there is for the cars and made them fast and made it so others could follow over the last 19 years. That my friend is why I find so much offense in the ignorance put forth by many of the people now-a-days. No respect is given. I gaurantee you it would not be so easy if it weren't for us and all the other people who paved the way over these last two decades.
How hard is it to gut a car, slap all the parts on that everyone else has already proven and then go to the race track, let me answer, it's not hard. YOU just spend $74,000+ on the build, plus the price of the car and run 9's, just like you said you did. No science, no nothing.
On the other hand, we started when there was NO aftermarket support for the 4g63 and have tested, blown up, caught on fire, crashed, changed parts, developed everything there is for the cars and made them fast and made it so others could follow over the last 19 years. That my friend is why I find so much offense in the ignorance put forth by many of the people now-a-days. No respect is given. I gaurantee you it would not be so easy if it weren't for us and all the other people who paved the way over these last two decades.
Whats wrong with bragging about being excited about doing what ive done??? Nothing im just the little guys David having the time of my life and sharing it with all my friends. Its haters like you that want to put people down like me because i don't have a buschur racing flag on my car.
Going 9's in an EVO is easy. Giving props to yourself for going 9's the first year of doing this is a waste of time. It's not hard to build a fast EVO, I've been laying down the numbers for almost 20 years with the 4g63, you can go to any reputable builders website, pick the parts and put the car together and race it and go 9's with ease.
How hard is it to gut a car, slap all the parts on that everyone else has already proven and then go to the race track, let me answer, it's not hard. YOU just spend $74,000+ on the build, plus the price of the car and run 9's, just like you said you did. No science, no nothing.
On the other hand, we started when there was NO aftermarket support for the 4g63 and have tested, blown up, caught on fire, crashed, changed parts, developed everything there is for the cars and made them fast and made it so others could follow over the last 19 years. That my friend is why I find so much offense in the ignorance put forth by many of the people now-a-days. No respect is given. I gaurantee you it would not be so easy if it weren't for us and all the other people who paved the way over these last two decades.
How hard is it to gut a car, slap all the parts on that everyone else has already proven and then go to the race track, let me answer, it's not hard. YOU just spend $74,000+ on the build, plus the price of the car and run 9's, just like you said you did. No science, no nothing.
On the other hand, we started when there was NO aftermarket support for the 4g63 and have tested, blown up, caught on fire, crashed, changed parts, developed everything there is for the cars and made them fast and made it so others could follow over the last 19 years. That my friend is why I find so much offense in the ignorance put forth by many of the people now-a-days. No respect is given. I gaurantee you it would not be so easy if it weren't for us and all the other people who paved the way over these last two decades.
you act like buschur was the only one developing parts and trying things out on the 4g63, what about all the people that were helping you, and giving you ideas, and making parts for the 4g63, there is alot of other people involved then just buschur racing, most of whom you have lost respect for you
Jim P., guys like you aren't going to take anything I post and believe it. If I post a log you would then say, "Well I don't believe that is from an ETS car or an AMS car or a Buschur car, how do I know what that log was from?" Posting a log won't prove anything to a guy like you, I will then be accused of using a log from another manufacture and saying it is something else.
ok so jim is in *** hat, fine, so there is no one out there that would like to see a log? or to have a temp sensor on both sides of the ic?
Oh man here comes Davids god persona, if you wouldn't have started with 4g63s David then someone else would have. Its as simple as that, no one whos going fast with 4g63s has to bow down to you. I don't think you started modding b16s or any other honda motor for a matter of fact but what do you know someone else did.
Last edited by Jim_Patterson; Nov 30, 2007 at 11:13 AM.
i hear a AMS ETS BUSCHUR shootout in the near future.
the fact is all 3 companies do a ton for the evo community and its aftermarket. so lets all stop being little school girls.
the fact is all 3 companies do a ton for the evo community and its aftermarket. so lets all stop being little school girls.
Its the constant jabs at those people/companies that have made me start to hate buschur.
ifarted, you have continued to follow me around from thread to thread and make comments. I haven't been in a thread of yours in months. Also when you call here looking for what's new etc. we have always been nice. I charged you about half price on the undertrays/diffuser you ordered a short time ago. It has nothing to do with a Buschur Banner on your car. You keep looking for arguements and I keep giving them back to you. Seems rather mutual to me.
I didn't say I was the ONLY one developing parts. I said we paved the way. Many of the shops that are out there now got their starts buying from us and going fast with our parts and then went on their own. Look at the first line in my signature. That will show the road we paved.
I'm done here.
I didn't say I was the ONLY one developing parts. I said we paved the way. Many of the shops that are out there now got their starts buying from us and going fast with our parts and then went on their own. Look at the first line in my signature. That will show the road we paved.
I'm done here.
Last edited by David Buschur; Nov 30, 2007 at 11:21 AM.
The difference though David is that Paul doesn't take jabs at you, and he definatly doesn't talk **** about your heritage/race in PMs to you like you did when you said something to the nature of DIRTY MEXICANS in a PM to Paul who has mexican heritage.
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are you kidding me? there are alot of vender's that will include logs to back up there tests, im sure david is planning to put logs with his #'s(god i hope so) i just wish he would have waited until he had them temp logs with the numbers before he posted a test like this up
Buschur far and away has put out more data than any other vendor.
I hope other vendors will pick up on the idea you should actually prove your product before you sell it.