i have an idea for something for you to try inbetween the 30r and 35r, and not a 3040R,

chat with me online

cb

 

Thanks for this great thread. I have been debating on Green vs. Full Race TS and the lack of data on the TS has been maddening. I know that you have taken the vehicle to the dragstrip but have you dabbled in any auto-x or similar type of driving since putting on the Full Race setup? I am looking for a setup that would be great as a daily driver and work great on a road course. It seems like this could do a good job because of the quick spool. I do wish that we could see some nubmers on 100 octane or better before you change over to the 35R. I know that OKIX has put down some impressive numbers on his Green with import and much more in depth tuning. A comparison with higher octane fuel on your setup would be awesome.

Good luck with your plans.

 

Noooo problem. Glad I could help out... I will do the 35r tests the same exact way with the only changes being the tune and the turbo. Nothing else. O and maybe 5 more lbs from me and all the damn burgur king runs I seem to be making daily..... that angus one is the bomb.

 

I have not been on a auto x or track yet. Got some friends pushing me to do it though. But imho this is the setup to have. I am a back road jammer and the off/on boost response is mega fast. I personally would pick this setup if I did auto x/track my car.

Sorry I don't think ill be able to do the 100oct tests. To much from tuning pricing and dyno time I don't have time for it. But u will see 93oct 100oct and c16 numbers on the 35r.

 

Thanks for the reply and good luck with the 35r. I wish I had the funds availabe to buy that 30R from you.

 

Thanks for posting, and awesome results from the TS!

 

I'm so mystified why I'm the only one comparing this turbo to a Green.

These are the first results of a TS 30R... the Evo Green is TS... it is a bit smaller.

 

Dan-
Awesome results. Based on how the 30r has done here the 35r should be very impressive.

-Paul

 

Wow, that kit is stupid expensive.

 

...about comparing the Green. I agree that it is natural to compare the two. After corresponding with Dan, I don't think he has a problem with it at all.

From what I found, this turbo looks to spool maybe few hundred rpm later with equal or more whp and what I assume is greater potential. I could not find a Green with similar mods that made much more whp (most made less, but the cams are hard to compare) and remember, this is on a mail in flash, so as good as Jester is, I find it hard to believe there isn't room for improvement.

For me, the really impressive thing is how much torque this 3076 makes. It compares well to Scorke's 3076 on his 2.3. Scorke hit 300 #ft at about 4300 rpm and Dan hit it at about 3700 rpm, about the same as a Green. The 2 liter 3076s I've seen, and I had one, struggled to make any torque at all, much less 300 #ft under 4000 rpm.

As far as potential is concerned, he trapped 126 on a mail in pump gas flash that he added a couple of psi to and some race gas. Again, I'm guessing he's got room to improve. The question you bring up about the small hot side limiting max power is one I'm also curious about but one we won't be able to answer. Ideally, Dan would do a race gas map and 30+ psi and we'd see where he maxes out, but that isn't going to happen. Instead, we'll get to see what a TS 35r will do.

 

Good points Robert.

 

i pretty much agree with everything robert wrote. the green is basically a big stock evo turbo. It uses an internally wastegated housing designed to bolt up to the stock turbine inlet (manifold) and outlet (02 housing) flanges, the compressor housing bolts up, oil/coolant lines bolt up and its an EASY first turbo to upgrade to. Its great in that regard. Most enthusiasts who upgrade to a full-race setup have a lot of options with room to grow. here are some examples:

-turbine wheel choices -- 30R, 35R, 40R, all of turbonetics offereings, borg warner's soon to be released stuff

-turbine housings (.78 a/r T3 twinscroll, .84 A/R T3 twinscroll (soon), 1.06 A/R T3 twinscroll, .70 A/R T4 twinscroll, 1.06 A/R T4 twinscroll (if you can find it), .63 A/R T3 singlescroll, .82 A/R T3 singlescroll and 1.06 A/R T3 single scroll

-compressor wheel choices -- 71mm (3071R), 76mm (3076R), 82mm (GT35R), 50 trim, 66.7mm (T04Z/37R), 40R, borg warners soon to be released stuff, etc

-compressor housings -- 3" inlet 2" outlet, 4" inlet, 2" outlet, 4" inlet, 2.5" outlet, etc

its comparing apples to oranges. Full-Race twinscroll is much more race oriented with no limit as to what you can do, just choose T3 or T4 for the turbine flange... the green is a great option for a mostly stock turbo setup and offers a lot of performance for a simple configuration

 

how do the revolver cams drive the turbo, relative to hks cams? are revolvers known for more mid-range & top or just top end over the hks cams??/

i have never really read to many good things about the revolvers, is why i ask..

amazing boost response with the TS set-up

 

Geoff,

ours is almost ready

interesting combo for sure

cb

 

I've been told the Revolvers are a good mid range cam.

I believe they have a lot of lift, fast ramp rates, a lot of duration at 1mm of lift, but not much overall duration.

Ted B can prolly comment on what the above characteristics do.